Pocket Watch Database

From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin Grade 571 Pocket Watch

Elgin National Watch Co.

Grade: 571

8 Adjustments

Manufacturer: Elgin
Manufacturer Location: Elgin, Illinois
Movement Serial Number: J372032
Grade: 571
Variation: 8ADJ
Model: 20
Estimated Production Year: 1948
Run Quantity: 6,000
Grade/Model Run: 7 of 26
Grade/Model Total Production: 565,000
Variant Est. Production: 20,000 (16S-M20-21J-ONL-A5PTI-8ADJ)
Size: 16s
Jewels: 21j
Movement Configuration: Openface
Movement Finish: Nickel
Movement Setting: Lever
Plate: 3/4 Plate
Barrel: Going
Train: Quick
Regulator: Ball
Adjusted: Yes
Adjusted to Position: Yes
Adjusted # of Positions: 5
Adjusted to Temperature: Yes
Adjusted to Isochronism: Yes
Total Adjustments: 8
Railroad Grade: Yes
U.S. Patents: 77078
Data Research: 1927/1950 Elgin Serial List
Case: Various
Run ID: 15327.571G7.16S3915.1620M22.O6958.L2512.21J522
Database Version: v52.245
Advanced Metrics
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index:
Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
1,701.09
PWDB Relative Rarity Index:
Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
657.30
Share of Production:
Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
1.117%
Registry Population: 27 (0.45%)
$ Estimated Value (12 Month Change): -4.56% Analyzing 781 Sales

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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.


Anonymous · April 6, 2024

Serial Number J375031 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · September 20, 2023

Serial Number J376219 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

barhink 1 · September 18, 2023

Serial Number J376311 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · June 12, 2022

Serial Number J372573 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · March 25, 2022

Serial Number J375000 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · October 1, 2021

Serial Number J376510 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · January 21, 2021

Serial Number J376402 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · January 17, 2021

Serial Number J375255 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · June 24, 2020

Serial Number J374305 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · November 15, 2019

Serial Number J375011 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · June 14, 2018

Serial Number J373073 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · December 4, 2017

Serial Number J372896 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · August 4, 2017

Serial Number J376171 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · June 10, 2017

Serial Number J372002 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · March 3, 2017

Serial Number J374193 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · December 2, 2016

Serial Number J376841 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

DSpall 6 · December 1, 2016

Serial Number J376852 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · September 28, 2016

Serial Number J376841 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: marked 8 adjustments
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

locomotive Supporter 81 · January 24, 2016

Serial Number J372226 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

locomotive Supporter 81 · January 24, 2016

Serial Number J372226 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · September 3, 2015

Serial Number J375803 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · November 13, 2014

Serial Number J374720 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 8 to 5

Anonymous · November 13, 2014

Serial Number J374720 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: regulator is elgin
Curator Response: Please upload a photo of the movement so we can evaluate. The examples we have seen have the Ball regulator.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 8 to 5

Anonymous · November 13, 2014

Serial Number J374720 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 8 to 5

Anonymous · November 2, 2014

Serial Number J374911 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 8 to 5

Anonymous · October 29, 2014

Serial Number J373357 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 8 to 5

Anonymous · August 15, 2014

Serial Number J372410 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 8 to 5

Anonymous · July 12, 2014

Serial Number J375540 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 8 to 5

Anonymous · July 12, 2014

Serial Number J375540 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 8 to 5

WilliamGene 69 · June 1, 2014

Serial Number J375983 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 8 to 5

Mobilaero Top Contributor Supporter 292 · May 31, 2014

Serial Number J372244 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 8 to 5

Anonymous · January 21, 2014

Serial Number J373095 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 8 to 5

Wrstratton 134 · January 20, 2014

Serial Number J372032 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 8 to 5

pocket12 1 · January 5, 2014

Serial Number J376725 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 8 to 5

Anonymous · September 25, 2013

Serial Number J375837 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 8 to 5

Anonymous · July 14, 2013

Serial Number J375828 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 8 to 5

Anonymous · July 7, 2013

Serial Number J375828 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 8 to 5

Anonymous · July 5, 2013

Serial Number J372365 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 8 to 5

txtimefan Supporter 101 · June 22, 2013

Serial Number J372442 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 8 to 5

Anonymous · June 1, 2013

Serial Number J372244 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: As other people have indicated the movement is
marked '8 ADJUSTMENTS' which means 5 POSITIONS
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted # Positions changed from 8 to 5

Anonymous · March 21, 2013

Serial Number J372032 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Adj 8 Pos :
Elgin frequently marks watches as having "x
adjustments", where 'x' is some number greater
than three, often 6 or 8. This means that it has
been adjusted to temperature (2 adjustments),
isochronism (1 adjustment) and the remaining x-3
adjustments are to positions. You sometimes see
people say that a watch is "adjusted to 8
positions" because they misinterpret the phrase "8
adjustments". They fail to realize that 3 of those
adjustments are to heat, cold and isochronism, and
the watch is really adjusted to just 5 positions.
(There appears to be a few rare cases when Elgin
and other companies may have marked a watch as
having "8 adjustments" and meant 6 positions.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes

Anonymous · March 21, 2013

Serial Number J372032 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Adjusted to 8 Positions:
The best watches were timed in six positions: DU
- dial up, DD - dial down, PU - pendant up, PL -
pendant left, PD - pendant down and PR - pendant
right. Often five positions were used, typically
omitting the PD position.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes

Anonymous · March 11, 2013

Serial Number J372745 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes

Anonymous · March 8, 2013

Serial Number J372032 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Adjusted to 8 Positions on mine
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes

Anonymous · July 24, 2012

Serial Number J375876 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes

Anonymous · April 11, 2012

Serial Number J373985 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: 5 positions may be right, but adjusted as NO
probably isn't. The text on the bridge says
ADJUSTED - 8 POSITIONS. I assume this is heat,
cold, isochonism, and 5 positional adjustments? So
for heat, cold and isochonism the answer to
Adjusted should probably be YES.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
Elgin Grade 571 Pocket Watch