Pocket Watch Database

From the American Horology Archive:
Illinois Grade 127 Pocket Watch

Illinois Watch Co.

Grade: 127

Manufacturer: Illinois
Manufacturer Location: Springfield, Illinois
Movement Serial Number: 4974086
Grade: 127
Model: 3
Estimated Production Year: 1927
Run Quantity: 1,400
Grade/Model Run: 1 of 21
Grade/Model Total Production: 26,000
Size: 12s
Jewels: 17j
Jewel Setting: Raised Gold Settings (Screw-Set)
Movement Configuration: Openface
Movement Finish: Nickel
Movement Setting: Pendant
Plate: Bridge Plate
Bridge Type: Center
Double Roller: Yes
Barrel: Going
Regulator: Reed
Adjusted: Yes
Adjusted to Temperature: Yes
Railroad Grade: No
Dial Feet Locations: 20.5, 39.0, 55.0
Case Screw Locations: 2.5, 35.5
Case: Various
Run ID: 12184.127G1.12S2076.123M898.O6913.P4612.17J4095
Database Version: v52.245
Advanced Metrics
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index:
Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
78.28
PWDB Relative Rarity Index:
Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
264.13
Share of Production:
Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
0.457%
Registry Population: 12 (0.86%)
$ Estimated Value (12 Month Change): -4.08% Analyzing 117 Sales
Research Note: Original records designate this run as Grade Bunn Special. However, multiple reports indicate actual production is inconsistent with factory records.

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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.


Anonymous · April 26, 2021

Serial Number 4974278 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Looks like a grade 405/406, not marked "127" --
https://www.ebay.com/itm/143658870573?hash=item21
72bc672d:g:BU0AAOSwLrlersAT
Curator Response: Verified. [eBay #143658870573]. Movement is not marked "127" but other characteristics are consistent (12s, False Center Bridge, "17 Jewels"," "Adjusted," "Double Roller," and "cog wheel" damaskeened design on the winding wheels.

Anonymous · April 15, 2021

Serial Number 4974317 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · February 24, 2019

Serial Number 4974435 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · February 24, 2019

Serial Number 4974435 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · March 19, 2018

Serial Number 4974651 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: https://www.ebay.com/itm/ANTIQUE-ILLINOIS-GOLD-FIL
LED-POCKET-WATCH-17-JEWELS/391996339066?hash=item5
b44cd737a:g:RIEAAOSwI51aoazK
Looks like a 127 - different winding wheel
damascening, pressed balance jewels
Curator Response: I agree with this assessment. The Grade 127 was an "updated" 405, so the features are nearly identical.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Grade changed from 405 to 127

visteo 60 · September 14, 2014

Serial Number 4973788 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Definitely not Bunn - saw on ebay and looks very
much like a 405. It is 17 J.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Grade changed from Bunn Special to 127
Size changed from 16 to 12
Jewels changed from 21j to 17j
Movement Configuration changed from Hunting to Openface
Factory Model changed from 8 to 3
Movement Setting changed from Lever to Pendant
Plate changed from 3/4 to Bridge

kleighton 9 · September 7, 2014

Serial Number 4973788 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: 17j and does not say "Bunn Special"
Changes since this report was submitted:
Grade changed from Bunn Special to 127
Size changed from 16 to 12
Jewels changed from 21j to 17j
Movement Configuration changed from Hunting to Openface
Factory Model changed from 8 to 3
Movement Setting changed from Lever to Pendant
Plate changed from 3/4 to Bridge

Anonymous · April 16, 2014

Serial Number 4974086 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: 4974086 is a 17 jewel open face watch model 7 or 9

On the nickel mvt. is serial #, adjusted,
illinois watch co. springfield, 17 jewels.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Grade changed from Bunn Special to 127
Size changed from 16 to 12
Jewels changed from 21j to 17j
Movement Configuration changed from Hunting to Openface
Factory Model changed from 8 to 3
Movement Setting changed from Lever to Pendant
Plate changed from 3/4 to Bridge

Anonymous · January 4, 2014

Serial Number 4973889 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Grade changed from Bunn Special to 127
Size changed from 16 to 12
Jewels changed from 21j to 17j
Movement Configuration changed from Hunting to Openface
Factory Model changed from 8 to 3
Movement Setting changed from Lever to Pendant
Plate changed from 3/4 to Bridge

Anonymous · August 8, 2013

Serial Number 4974160 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Grade changed from 415 to 127
Size changed from 16 to 12
Jewels changed from 21j to 17j
Movement Configuration changed from Hunting to Openface
Factory Model changed from 8 to 3
Movement Setting changed from Lever to Pendant
Plate changed from 3/4 to Bridge

Anonymous · February 5, 2013

Serial Number 4973891 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: 17 jewel size 12
Changes since this report was submitted:
Grade changed from 415 to 127
Size changed from 16 to 12
Jewels changed from 21j to 17j
Movement Configuration changed from Hunting to Openface
Factory Model changed from 8 to 3
Movement Setting changed from Lever to Pendant
Plate changed from 3/4 to Bridge
Illinois Grade 127 Pocket Watch