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From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin Grade 239 Pocket Watch
Elgin Grade 239 Pocket Watch

Elgin National Watch Co.

Grade: 239

Veritas

Manufacturer: Elgin
Manufacturer Location: Elgin, Illinois
Movement Serial Number: 10441041
Grade: 239
Variation: Veritas
Model: 8
Generation: First
Class: 90
Estimated Production Year: 1904
Run Quantity: 1,000
Grade/Model Run: 10 of 17
Grade/Model Total Production: 18,800
Variant Est. Production: 16,500 (18S-M8-21J-ONL-A5PTI-VERITAS)
Grade/Model Unrealized Production: 1,200
Size: 18s
Jewels: 21j
Jewel Material: Ruby
Jewel Setting: Raised Gold Settings (Screw-Set)
Movement Configuration: Openface
Movement Finish: Nickel
Movement Signing Style: Mixed
Movement Inlay Color: Black
Movement Setting: Lever
Plate: 3/4 Plate
Barrel: Safety
Balance Jewel Material: Diamond
Train: Quick
Train Material: Gold
Center Wheel Material: Gold
Regulator: Traveling Nut (spring)
Hairspring: Breguet
Escapement Type: Straight-line
Pallet Jewel Material: Sapphire
Standard Dial Type: Double-Sunk
Adjusted: Yes
Adjusted to Position: Yes
Adjusted # of Positions: 5
Adjusted to Temperature: Yes
Adjusted to Isochronism: Yes
Railroad Grade: Yes
Railroad Grade Classification: Class A
Wind Indicator: No
U.S. Patents: 596407, 77078, 596408
Movement Markings: Veritas
Elgin, Ill.
U.S.A.
21 Jewels
Adjusted
Safety Barrel
Data Research: 1904 Elgin Serial List
1915 Elgin Serial List
1927/1950 Elgin Serial List
Case: Various
Run ID: 4331.239G10.18S2148.188M30.O1272.L1524.21J105
Database Version: v52.219
Advanced Metrics
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index:
Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
56.29
PWDB Relative Rarity Index:
Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
21.82
Share of Production:
Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
0.037%
Registry Population: 18 (1.80%)
$ Estimated Value (12 Month Change): 2.88% Analyzing 212 Sales

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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.


Anonymous · February 21, 2022

Serial Number 10441114 was reported as accurate.

billkov 98 · January 8, 2021

Serial Number 10441316 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Double Roller changed from Yes to No

Anonymous · October 30, 2020

Serial Number 10441114 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Double Roller changed from Yes to No

Anonymous · July 10, 2018

Serial Number 10441353 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Double Roller changed from Yes to No

kevinvan 1 · March 12, 2018

Serial Number 10441204 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Double Roller changed from Yes to No

Anonymous · March 12, 2018

Serial Number 10441204 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Double Roller changed from Yes to No

Anonymous · January 26, 2018

Serial Number 10441026 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Elgin-Veritas-21j-18s-OF-
Grade-239-Gold-Filled-Lever-Set-Pocket-Watch-54-5m
m-RUN/112767536523?hash=item1a41780d8b:g:t3cAAOSwq
aJaZGLt
picture shows ruby balance end cap, not diamond
Curator Response: Confirmed. Earlier variations are described as containing ruby jewels (not ruby, sapphire, and diamaond as mentioned in later descriptions).
Changes since this report was submitted:
Double Roller changed from Yes to No

Anonymous · February 7, 2016

Serial Number 10441109 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 30, 2016

Serial Number 10441542 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 3, 2014

Serial Number 10441683 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · April 9, 2014

Serial Number 10441184 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · April 7, 2014

Serial Number 10441045 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 1, 2013

Serial Number 10441054 was reported as accurate.

LeroyC 392 · June 5, 2013

Serial Number 10441781 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: No wind indicator
Marked 'ADJUSTED' on balance cock
Marked 'ADJUSTED 5 POSITIONS' on barrel bridge
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes

Bluejay 179 · June 3, 2013

Serial Number 10441781 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Adjusted 5 Positions marked on 3/4 plate.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes

Anonymous · January 21, 2013

Serial Number 10441973 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: No Winding Indicator.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes

Anonymous · January 15, 2013

Serial Number 10441873 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
Double Roller changed from Unknown to No

Anonymous · December 22, 2012

Serial Number 10441774 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes

Anonymous · September 15, 2012

Serial Number 10441504 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
Elgin Grade 239 Pocket Watch
Elgin Grade 239 Pocket Watch