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Access Date: November 21, 2024
"1251" could possibly indicate the grade of the watch and not the serial number of your movement. Serial numbers are usually more than a few digits.
From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin National Watch Co.
Grade: 62
H.Z. Culver
| Manufacturer: | Elgin |  |
| Manufacturer Location: | Elgin, Illinois | |
| Movement Serial Number: | 1251 | |
| Grade: | 62 | |
| Variation: | H.Z. Culver | |
| Model: | 1 | |
| Class: | 2 | |
| Estimated Production Year: | 1867 | |
| Run Quantity: | 800 | |
| Grade/Model Run: | 1 of 17 | |
| Grade/Model Total Production: | 16,146 | |
| Variant Est. Production: | 5,646 (18S-M1-15J-HGK-U) | |
| Size: | 18s | |
| Jewels: | 15j | |
| Movement Configuration: | Adaptable | |
| Movement Finish: | Gilt | |
| Movement Setting: | Key | |
| Plate: | Full Plate | |
| Barrel: | Going | |
| Train: | Quick | |
| Regulator: | Plain | |
| Adjusted: | No | |
| Railroad Grade: | No | |
| U.S. Patents: | 77078 | |
| Case: | Various | |
| Run ID: | 3.62G1.18S2.181M2.H2.K2.15J2 | |
| Data Research: |
1896 Elgin Serial List 1904 Elgin Serial List 1915 Elgin Serial List 1927/1950 Elgin Serial List |
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| Database Version: | v52.450 | |
| Advanced Metrics | ||
| PWDB Absolute Rarity Index: Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 48.61 | |
| PWDB Relative Rarity Index: Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 18.73 | |
| Share of Production: Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 0.032% | |
| Registry Population: Scoped for This Run Only | 23 (2.88%) | |
| $ Estimated Value (12 Month Change): | -0.57% Analyzing 124 Sales | |
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Research Note: Some movements in this run are marked "Culver" instead of "H.Z. Culver." The "Culver" movements were originally intended to be sold as a distinctive grade featuring a solid steel balance wheel and were only produced for a short period of time before discontinuation. Some movements during a transitional period are marked "Culver" with the upgraded expansion balance. Later, the "H.Z. Culver" and "Culver" movements were consolidated in material catalogs.
#1100: Verified as Marked "Culver" with solid balance wheel. #1154: Verified as Marked "H.Z. Culver" with an expansion balance. #1155: Verified as Marked "Culver" with solid balance wheel. #1184: Verified as Marked "H.Z. Culver" with an expansion balance. #1237: Verified as Marked "Culver" with expansion balance (balance serial numbers match). #1251: Verified as Marked "H.Z. Culver" with an expansion balance. |
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Production Metrics Tree: Grade 62
Target Profile: 18S-M1-15J-HGK-U-H.Z. CULVER
| Elgin Grade 62 (All Variations): 16,146 ETP | |
| 18S: 16,146 100.00% 18s, Grade 62 |
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| 18S-M1: 16,146 100.00% 18s, Grade 62, Model 1 |
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| 18S-M1-15J: 16,146 100.00% 18s, Grade 62, Model 1, 15 Jewels |
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| 18S-M1-15J-HGK: 16,146 100.00% 18s, Grade 62, Model 1, 15 Jewels, Adaptable/Key/Gilt |
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| 18S-M1-15J-HGK-U: 5,646 34.97% | Other: 10,500
Other Adjustments or Unclassified |
| 18S-M1-15J-HGK-U-H.Z. CULVER: 5,646 34.97% | |
Population Registry for This Run
| Image | Serial Number | Run Position | Primary Identification Method | Discovery Date | |
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There are 23 watches in the population registry for this run with 7 images.
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Verification Reports for this Run
The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.
Mobluegrass Supporter 46 · October 10, 2024
Serial Number 1429 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · May 2, 2024
Serial Number 1486 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · March 27, 2024
Serial Number 1668 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · May 2, 2023
Serial Number 1155 was reported as accurate.
Cheryl5150 28 · September 17, 2021
Serial Number 1326 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · March 6, 2021
Serial Number 1711 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · March 6, 2021
Serial Number 1711 was reported as accurate.
Humphrey Supporter 48 · February 19, 2021
Serial Number 1326 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · July 29, 2019
Serial Number 1603 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · June 5, 2019
Serial Number 1738 was reported as inaccurate.
Just4orfun 117 · February 26, 2018
Serial Number 1155 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · September 1, 2017
Serial Number 1012 was reported as accurate.
Franklin3 1 · October 20, 2016
Serial Number 1682 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · June 20, 2016
Serial Number 1798 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · March 31, 2016
Serial Number 1722 was reported as accurate.
Klinej54 22 · January 2, 2016
Serial Number 1798 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · November 14, 2015
Serial Number 1798 was reported as inaccurate.
Anonymous · November 2, 2015
Serial Number 1201 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · May 26, 2015
Serial Number 1361 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · January 3, 2015
Serial Number 1259 was reported as accurate.
jameslisa 1 · August 14, 2014
Serial Number 1233 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · May 6, 2014
Serial Number 1407 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · September 11, 2013
Serial Number 1221 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · August 29, 2013
Serial Number 1517 was reported as accurate.
MikeBailey 11 · July 19, 2013
Serial Number 1665 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · July 8, 2013
Serial Number 1221 was reported as inaccurate.
with original open face dial.
Anonymous · May 14, 2013
Serial Number 1777 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · March 24, 2013
Serial Number 001544 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · March 20, 2013
Serial Number 1503 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · February 1, 2013
Serial Number 1123 was reported as accurate.
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