Elgin Pocket Watch: Serial Number 1343817 (Grade 92)

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Access Date: December 29, 2024

From the American Horology Archive:

Elgin National Watch Co.

Grade: 92

Private Label(s) in Run:

DeRoys 222 Fifth Ave. - Pittsburgh, PA.

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Manufacturer:	Elgin
Manufacturer Location:	Elgin, Illinois
Movement Serial Number:	1343817
Grade:	92
Model:	3
Class:	26
Estimated Production Year:	1884
Run Quantity:	10,000
Grade/Model Run:	4 of 51
Grade/Model Total Production:	150,000
Size:	16s
Jewels:	11j
Movement Configuration:	Hunting
Movement Finish:	Gilt
Movement Setting:	Lever
Plate:	3/4 Plate
Barrel:	Going
Train:	Quick
Regulator:	Plain
Adjusted:	No
Railroad Grade:	No
U.S. Patents:	77078, 503527
Case:	Various
Run ID:	723.92G4.16S80.163M33.H683.L226.11J275
Data Research:	1896 Elgin Serial List 1904 Elgin Serial List 1915 Elgin Serial List 1927/1950 Elgin Serial List
Database Version:	v52.528
Advanced Metrics
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index: Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration	451.61
PWDB Relative Rarity Index: Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration	174.46
Share of Production: Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration	0.296%
Registry Population: Scoped for This Run Only	39 (0.39%)
$ Estimated Value (12 Month Change):	-14.71% Analyzing 316 Sales
Research Note: #1348723 Reported as featuring nickel plates instead of gilt.

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Production Metrics Tree: Grade 92

Target Profile: 16S-M3-11J-HGL-U

Elgin Grade 92 (All Variations): 150,000 ETP

16S: 150,000 100.00%
16s, Grade 92

16S-M3: 150,000 100.00%
16s, Grade 92, Model 3

16S-M3-11J: 150,000 100.00%
16s, Grade 92, Model 3, 11 Jewels

16S-M3-11J-HGL: 150,000 100.00%
16s, Grade 92, Model 3, 11 Jewels, Hunting/Lever/Gilt

16S-M3-11J-HGL-U: 150,000 100.00%

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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.

Anonymous · October 2, 2023

Serial Number 1347287 was reported as accurate.

MoatsJustin1 top-contributor 5272 · September 26, 2023

Serial Number 1341619 was reported as accurate.

cmdraven 4083 · June 14, 2023

Serial Number 1342869 was reported as accurate.

cmdraven 4083 · June 14, 2023

Serial Number 1340718 was reported as accurate.

Chronified Supporter 212 · February 23, 2022

Serial Number 1345164 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 3, 2021

Serial Number 1345825 was reported as accurate.

Johnhar 1 · November 4, 2021

Serial Number 1346218 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · June 7, 2021

Serial Number 1344557 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · February 19, 2021

Serial Number 1340881 was reported as accurate.

Rcardkidz 4137 · May 19, 2020

Serial Number 1340820 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · April 8, 2020

Serial Number 1344557 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · February 24, 2020

Serial Number 1342290 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · February 12, 2020

Serial Number 1349317 was reported as accurate.

BigEZCajun 1 · December 12, 2019

Serial Number 1347966 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · October 12, 2019

Serial Number 1345258 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · September 4, 2019

Serial Number 1347867 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · May 1, 2019

Serial Number 1340305 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: 17 jewels adjusted

Curator Response: Thanks for the report. If possible, please upload an image of the movement to your collection for further evaluation and documentation.

WilliamBatson 9 · July 8, 2018

Serial Number 1340153 was reported as accurate.

WilliamBatson 9 · July 8, 2018

Serial Number 1340153 was reported as accurate.

WilliamBatson 9 · July 6, 2018

Serial Number 1340153 was reported as accurate.

oilseed Supporter 471 · April 3, 2018

Serial Number 1348723 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Finish is NICKEL (as opposed to Gilt as shown).
PRIVATE LABEL model, Engraved on Barrel bridge
plate
"DeRoys"
"222 Fifth Ave."
"PITTSBURGH, PA."
and on Dial, printed
"De Roys" (in Script)
"PITTSBURGH, PA." (block font)
"222 Fifth Ave."

Curator Response: Thanks for the report. If possible, please upload an image of the movement to your collection so we can take a closer look.