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Access Date: November 06, 2024
From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin National Watch Co.
Grade: 367
Father Time
| Manufacturer: | Elgin |  |
| Manufacturer Location: | Elgin, Illinois | |
| Movement Serial Number: | 15154503 | |
| Grade: | 367 | |
| Variation: | Father Time | |
| Model: | 8 | |
| Generation: | Second | |
| Class: | 90 | |
| Estimated Production Year: | 1911 | |
| Run Quantity: | 1,000 | |
| Grade/Model Run: | 6 of 13 | |
| Grade/Model Total Production: | 10,300 | |
| Variant Est. Production: | 8,000 (18S-M8-21J-ONL-A5PTI-FATHER TIME) | |
| Grade/Model Unrealized Production: | 2,700 | |
| Size: | 18s | |
| Jewels: | 21j | |
| Jewel Material: | Ruby, Sapphire & Diamond | |
| Jewel Setting: | Gold Settings (Screw-Set) | |
| Movement Configuration: | Openface | |
| Movement Finish: | Nickel | |
| Movement Signing Style: | Old English | |
| Movement Inlay Color: | Gilt | |
| Movement Setting: | Lever | |
| Plate: | 3/4 Plate | |
| Double Roller: | Yes | |
| Barrel: | Safety | |
| Balance Jewel Material: | Diamond | |
| Train: | Quick | |
| Regulator: | Traveling Nut (spring) | |
| Hairspring: | Breguet | |
| Pallet Jewel Material: | Sapphire | |
| Standard Dial Type: | Double-Sunk | |
| Adjusted: | Yes | |
| Adjusted to Position: | Yes | |
| Adjusted # of Positions: | 5 | |
| Adjusted to Temperature: | Yes | |
| Adjusted to Isochronism: | Yes | |
| Adjustment Tolerance: | [10] 5P +/- 10 s/24hrs., Temp. +/- 3 s/16hrs., Reg. +/- 0-2 s/24hrs. | |
| Railroad Grade: | Yes | |
| Railroad Grade Classification: | Class A | |
| Wind Indicator Available: | Yes | |
| Wind Indicator Present: | Mixed | |
| U.S. Patents: | 77078, 596407, 596408 | |
| Movement Markings: | Father Time Elgin, Ill. U.S.A. 21 Jewels Adjusted 5 Positions Safety Barrel |
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| Case: | Various | |
| Run ID: | 7016.367G6.18S2973.188M103.O2450.L1971.21J179 | |
| Data Research: |
1909 Elgin Serial List 1915 Elgin Serial List 1927/1950 Elgin Serial List |
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| Database Version: | v52.428 | |
| Advanced Metrics | ||
| PWDB Absolute Rarity Index: Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 31.01 | |
| PWDB Relative Rarity Index: Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 11.93 | |
| Share of Production: Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 0.020% | |
| Registry Population: Scoped for This Run Only | 14 (1.40%) | |
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Research Note: #15154831 Verified as Free-Sprung with Wind Indicator, #15154499 and #15154117 Reported but Not Personally Verified. #15154503: Verified with No Wind Indicator.
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Production Metrics Tree: Grade 367
Target Profile: 18S-M8-21J-ONL-A5PTI-FATHER TIME
| Elgin Grade 367 (All Variations): 10,300 ETP | |
| 18S: 10,300 100.00% 18s, Grade 367 |
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| 18S-M8: 10,300 100.00% 18s, Grade 367, Model 8 |
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| 18S-M8-21J: 10,300 100.00% 18s, Grade 367, Model 8, 21 Jewels |
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| 18S-M8-21J-ONL: 10,300 100.00% 18s, Grade 367, Model 8, 21 Jewels, Openface/Lever/Nickel |
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| 18S-M8-21J-ONL-A5PTI: 10,300 100.00% | |
| 18S-M8-21J-ONL-A5PTI-FATHER TIME: 8,000 77.67% | Other: 2,300
Other Variants or Unclassified |
| NOTE: 13,000 Units Originally Reserved with Est. 2,700 Never Manufactured | |
Population Registry for This Run
| Image | Serial Number | Run Position | Primary Identification Method | Discovery Date | |
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There are 14 watches in the population registry for this run with 1 image.
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Verification Reports for this Run
The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.
Anonymous · January 27, 2024
Serial Number 15154707 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · February 22, 2023
Serial Number 15154350 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · February 11, 2023
Serial Number 15154829 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · November 28, 2022
Serial Number 15154350 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · August 7, 2022
Serial Number 15154494 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · September 21, 2021
Serial Number 15154391 was reported as inaccurate.
deck box although the movement number and deck box
numbers don’t match.
CJEmpire3 110 · June 26, 2021
Serial Number 15154478 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · February 2, 2021
Serial Number 15154327 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · August 21, 2020
Serial Number 15154053 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · September 25, 2019
Serial Number 15154802 was reported as accurate.
dfchong 837 · September 23, 2019
Serial Number 15154126 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · April 18, 2019
Serial Number 15154554 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · April 10, 2019
Serial Number 15154922 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · March 21, 2019
Serial Number 15154766 was reported as accurate.
cloudjcc363 13 · February 18, 2019
Serial Number 15154392 was reported as accurate.
cloudjcc363 13 · February 1, 2019
Serial Number 15154392 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · January 21, 2019
Serial Number 15154707 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · December 31, 2018
Serial Number 15154922 was reported as accurate.
Sjefendan 13 · April 30, 2018
Serial Number 15154868 was reported as accurate.
sbmdbm 29 · June 2, 2017
Serial Number 15154117 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · May 22, 2017
Serial Number 15154256 was reported as inaccurate.
Anonymous · May 22, 2017
Serial Number 15154253 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · May 21, 2017
Serial Number 15154253 was reported as inaccurate.
Anonymous · May 21, 2017
Serial Number 15154253 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · May 21, 2017
Serial Number 15154253 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · February 18, 2017
Serial Number 15154499 was reported as inaccurate.
21 j 18 size free sprung
wind indicator 40 hour
grade 367
gold wheels 6 oz sterling duber case motor
barrel
mrzumbo 2 · July 17, 2016
Serial Number 15154436 was reported as accurate.
mrzumbo 2 · July 9, 2016
Serial Number 15154436 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · February 13, 2016
Serial Number 15154300 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · January 17, 2016
Serial Number 15154503 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · January 12, 2015
Serial Number 15154512 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · September 20, 2014
Serial Number 15154117 was reported as inaccurate.
indicator and free sprung balance. Does not show
movement so can not verify serial #.
Anonymous · November 5, 2013
Serial Number 15154205 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · August 15, 2013
Serial Number 15154205 was reported as inaccurate.
Anonymous · September 23, 2012
Serial Number 15154647 was reported as inaccurate.
Anonymous · June 20, 2012
Serial Number 15154512 was reported as inaccurate.
Anonymous · May 23, 2012
Serial Number 15154424 was reported as inaccurate.
with fine regulator… not in marine chronometer
configuration.
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