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Access Date: December 23, 2024
From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin National Watch Co.
Grade: 69
B.W. Raymond
| Manufacturer: | Elgin |  |
| Manufacturer Location: | Elgin, Illinois | |
| Movement Serial Number: | 181844 | |
| Grade: | 69 | |
| Variation: | B.W. Raymond | |
| Model: | 1 | |
| Class: | 1 | |
| Estimated Production Year: | 1872 | |
| Run Quantity: | 5,000 | |
| Grade/Model Run: | 17 of 24 | |
| Grade/Model Total Production: | 29,054 | |
| Variant Est. Production: | 26,054 (18S-M1-15J-HGK-A2P-B.W. RAYMOND) | |
| Size: | 18s | |
| Jewels: | 15j | |
| Movement Configuration: | Adaptable | |
| Movement Finish: | Gilt | |
| Movement Signing Style: | Formal Script | |
| Movement Inlay Color: | None | |
| Movement Setting: | Key | |
| Plate: | Full Plate | |
| Barrel: | Going | |
| Train: | Quick | |
| Regulator: | Moseley | |
| Adjusted: | Yes | |
| Adjusted to Position: | Yes | |
| Adjusted # of Positions: | 2 | |
| Adjusted to Temperature: | No | |
| Adjustment Tolerance: | [21] 2P +/- 15 s/24hrs., Temp. +/- 8 s/16hrs., Reg. +/- 5 s/24hrs. | |
| Railroad Grade: | Yes | |
| U.S. Patents: | 77078 | |
| Movement Markings: | B.W. Raymond Elgin, Ills. Adjusted Patent Pinion |
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| Case: | Various | |
| Run ID: | 167.69G17.18S159.181M157.H166.K164.15J52 | |
| Data Research: |
1896 Elgin Serial List 1904 Elgin Serial List 1915 Elgin Serial List 1927/1950 Elgin Serial List |
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| Database Version: | v52.518 | |
| Advanced Metrics | ||
| PWDB Absolute Rarity Index: Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 87.47 | |
| PWDB Relative Rarity Index: Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 33.75 | |
| Share of Production: Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 0.057% | |
| Registry Population: Scoped for This Run Only | 79 (1.58%) | |
| $ Estimated Value (12 Month Change): | -13.71% Analyzing 287 Sales | |
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Research Note: First full Grade 69 Raymond run to be marked "Adjusted." (Previous run mixed).
#181107: Verified with Double-Sunk "Pennsylvania Railroad Co." Dial. #181712: Verified with Double-Sunk "Pennsylvania Railroad Co." Dial. #181713: Verified with Double-Sunk "Pennsylvania Railroad Co." Dial. #180892: Verified with Double-Sunk "Pennsylvania Railroad Co." Dial. #183354: Verified with blank barrel bridge and stem-wind/lever-set mechanism more consistent with the Model 4 (appears to have been adapted at some point from the standard KW/KS model). |
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Production Metrics Tree: Grade 69
Target Profile: 18S-M1-15J-HGK-A2P-B.W. RAYMOND
| Elgin Grade 69 (All Variations): 29,054 ETP | |
| 18S: 29,054 100.00% 18s, Grade 69 |
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| 18S-M1: 29,054 100.00% 18s, Grade 69, Model 1 |
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| 18S-M1-15J: 29,054 100.00% 18s, Grade 69, Model 1, 15 Jewels |
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| 18S-M1-15J-HGK: 29,054 100.00% 18s, Grade 69, Model 1, 15 Jewels, Adaptable/Key/Gilt |
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| 18S-M1-15J-HGK-A2P: 29,054 100.00% | |
| 18S-M1-15J-HGK-A2P-B.W. RAYMOND: 26,054 89.67% | Other: 3,000
Other Variants or Unclassified |
Population Registry for This Run
| Image | Serial Number | Run Position | Primary Identification Method | Discovery Date | |
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There are 79 watches in the population registry for this run with 6 images.
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Verification Reports for this Run
The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.
Anonymous · September 2, 2023
Serial Number 184014 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · May 9, 2022
Serial Number 183717 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · September 27, 2021
Serial Number 184648 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · September 16, 2021
Serial Number 182033 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · September 14, 2021
Serial Number 182033 was reported as accurate.
pmwas1 97 · February 13, 2021
Serial Number 183354 was reported as inaccurate.
Anonymous · October 28, 2020
Serial Number 183766 was reported as accurate.
sgallo 5 · July 16, 2020
Serial Number 184081 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · April 13, 2020
Serial Number 180142 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · December 16, 2019
Serial Number 180172 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · December 15, 2019
Serial Number 181274 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · November 18, 2019
Serial Number 180172 was reported as accurate.
Dystopiologist 15 · September 28, 2019
Serial Number 181697 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · July 27, 2019
Serial Number 184209 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · April 15, 2019
Serial Number 181485 was reported as accurate.
ncplumber 150 · April 14, 2019
Serial Number 180617 was reported as accurate.
rad291 Supporter 20 · December 26, 2018
Serial Number 184507 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · December 1, 2018
Serial Number 183088 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · November 7, 2018
Serial Number 183088 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · September 11, 2018
Serial Number 182967 was reported as accurate.
wmike565 Supporter 115 · September 7, 2018
Serial Number 184585 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · June 13, 2018
Serial Number 182980 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · May 8, 2018
Serial Number 184368 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · May 3, 2018
Serial Number 185000 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · April 1, 2018
Serial Number 184386 was reported as accurate.
rad291 Supporter 20 · March 21, 2018
Serial Number 184507 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · February 25, 2018
Serial Number 181754 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · October 3, 2017
Serial Number 181580 was reported as accurate.
Pwhitlow 1 · June 18, 2017
Serial Number 180203 was reported as accurate.
ncplumber 150 · March 12, 2017
Serial Number 180617 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · November 19, 2016
Serial Number 183876 was reported as accurate.
dfchong 837 · July 14, 2016
Serial Number 182715 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · March 18, 2016
Serial Number 180121 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · March 11, 2016
Serial Number 181405 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · December 10, 2015
Serial Number 181245 was reported as inaccurate.
Anonymous · November 22, 2015
Serial Number 180854 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · August 2, 2015
Serial Number 180400 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · May 8, 2015
Serial Number 183861 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · January 21, 2015
Serial Number 183540 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · January 19, 2015
Serial Number 183540 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · January 7, 2015
Serial Number 183306 was reported as accurate.
thhwatch 2 · November 23, 2014
Serial Number 183717 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · November 2, 2014
Serial Number 183664 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · August 31, 2014
Serial Number 182995 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · August 3, 2014
Serial Number 180724 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · May 3, 2014
Serial Number 182198 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · April 28, 2014
Serial Number 180899 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · February 13, 2014
Serial Number 182044 was reported as accurate.
jerrydk7 227 · January 21, 2014
Serial Number 181643 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · January 12, 2014
Serial Number 183575 was reported as accurate.
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