Pocket Watch Database

From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin Grade 454 Pocket Watch

Elgin National Watch Co.

Grade: 454

Father Time

Manufacturer: Elgin
Manufacturer Location: Elgin, Illinois
Movement Serial Number: 23720797
Grade: 454
Variation: Father Time
Model: 15
Estimated Production Year: 1921
Run Quantity: 2,000
Grade/Model Run: 38 of 52
Grade/Model Total Production: 64,000
Size: 16s
Jewels: 21j
Jewel Material: Ruby & Sapphire
Jewel Setting: Gold Settings (Screw-Set)
Movement Configuration: Openface
Movement Finish: Nickel
Movement Setting: Lever
Plate: 3/4 Plate
Double Roller: Yes
Barrel: Going
Train: Quick
Regulator: Traveling Nut (spring)
Standard Dial Type: Double-Sunk
Adjusted: Yes
Adjusted to Position: Yes
Adjusted # of Positions: 5
Adjusted to Temperature: Yes
Adjusted to Isochronism: Yes
Railroad Grade: Yes
Railroad Grade Classification: Class A
Wind Indicator: No
U.S. Patents: 77078, 596407, 596408
Data Research: 1927/1950 Elgin Serial List
Case: Various
Run ID: 11561.454G38.16S2913.1615M180.O5008.L2281.21J301
Database Version: v52.245
Advanced Metrics
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index:
Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
192.69
PWDB Relative Rarity Index:
Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
74.40
Share of Production:
Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
0.126%
Registry Population: 25 (1.25%)
$ Estimated Value (12 Month Change): -4.41% Analyzing 622 Sales

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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.


Anonymous · June 20, 2023

Serial Number 23721127 was reported as accurate.

Element2o 1 · December 12, 2021

Serial Number 23721173 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 10, 2021

Serial Number 23721307 was reported as accurate.

jeromeschley 60 · January 1, 2021

Serial Number 23721924 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 23, 2020

Serial Number 23720468 was reported as accurate.

bubba70 543 · February 25, 2020

Serial Number 23721876 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · September 7, 2019

Serial Number 23720801 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · June 23, 2019

Serial Number 23721748 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · April 14, 2019

Serial Number 23721876 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 21, 2018

Serial Number 23721159 was reported as accurate.

bubba70 543 · December 19, 2018

Serial Number 23720205 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 7, 2018

Serial Number 23721159 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · August 21, 2018

Serial Number 23721861 was reported as accurate.

timerestored 278 · November 8, 2017

Serial Number 23720254 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · March 1, 2017

Serial Number 23721222 was reported as accurate.

walshsrfw 3 · February 21, 2017

Serial Number 23721222 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · September 1, 2016

Serial Number 23720167 was reported as accurate.

dfchong 837 · July 23, 2016

Serial Number 23721003 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 10, 2015

Serial Number 23720224 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 21, 2015

Serial Number 23720224 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 14, 2015

Serial Number 23720224 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · September 30, 2014

Serial Number 23720232 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 27, 2013

Serial Number 23720913 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 21, 2013

Serial Number 23720249 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 30, 2012

Serial Number 23720249 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 19, 2012

Serial Number 23720909 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: not a wind indicator model
Changes since this report was submitted:
Double Roller changed from Unknown to Yes

Anonymous · November 23, 2012

Serial Number 23720213 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: not a winding indicator model
Changes since this report was submitted:
Double Roller changed from Unknown to Yes

Anonymous · September 29, 2012

Serial Number 23720777 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: No winding indicator
Changes since this report was submitted:
Double Roller changed from Unknown to Yes

Anonymous · July 16, 2012

Serial Number 23721938 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Is not a winding indicator movement. Everything
else matches.
Elgin Grade 454 Pocket Watch