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Access Date: April 18, 2024
From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin National Watch Co.
Grade: 454
Father Time
| Manufacturer: | Elgin |  |
| Manufacturer Location: | Elgin, Illinois | |
| Movement Serial Number: | 23885205 | |
| Grade: | 454 | |
| Variation: | Father Time | |
| Model: | 15 | |
| Estimated Production Year: | 1921 | |
| Run Quantity: | 2,000 | |
| Grade/Model Run: | 40 of 52 | |
| Grade/Model Total Production: | 64,000 | |
| Size: | 16s | |
| Jewels: | 21j | |
| Jewel Material: | Ruby & Sapphire | |
| Jewel Setting: | Gold Settings (Screw-Set) | |
| Movement Configuration: | Openface | |
| Movement Finish: | Nickel | |
| Movement Setting: | Lever | |
| Plate: | 3/4 Plate | |
| Double Roller: | Yes | |
| Barrel: | Going | |
| Train: | Quick | |
| Regulator: | Traveling Nut (spring) | |
| Standard Dial Type: | Double-Sunk | |
| Adjusted: | Yes | |
| Adjusted to Position: | Yes | |
| Adjusted # of Positions: | 5 | |
| Adjusted to Temperature: | Yes | |
| Adjusted to Isochronism: | Yes | |
| Railroad Grade: | Yes | |
| Railroad Grade Classification: | Class A | |
| Wind Indicator Available: | Yes | |
| Wind Indicator Present: | Mixed | |
| U.S. Patents: | 77078, 596407, 596408 | |
| Data Research: |
1927/1950 Elgin Serial List |
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| Case: | Various | |
| Run ID: | 11624.454G40.16S2935.1615M184.O5049.L2287.21J303 | |
| Database Version: | v52.235 | |
| Advanced Metrics | ||
| PWDB Absolute Rarity Index: Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 192.69 | |
| PWDB Relative Rarity Index: Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 74.40 | |
| Share of Production: Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 0.126% | |
| Registry Population: | 20 (1.00%) | |
| $ Estimated Value (12 Month Change): | -2.64% Analyzing 620 Sales | |
Production Metrics Tree: Grade 454
Target Profile: 16S-M15-21J-ONL-A5PTI-FATHER TIME
| Elgin Grade 454 (All Variations): 64,000 ETP |
| 16S: 64,000 100.00% 16s, Grade 454 |
| 16S-M15: 64,000 100.00% 16s, Grade 454, Model 15 |
| 16S-M15-21J: 64,000 100.00% 16s, Grade 454, Model 15, 21 Jewels |
| 16S-M15-21J-ONL: 64,000 100.00% 16s, Grade 454, Model 15, 21 Jewels, Openface/Lever/Nickel |
| 16S-M15-21J-ONL-A5PTI: 64,000 100.00% |
| 16S-M15-21J-ONL-A5PTI-FATHER TIME: 64,000 100.00% |
Population Registry for This Run
| Image | Serial Number | Run Position | Primary Identification Method | Discovery Date | |
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There are 20 watches in the population registry for this run with 3 images.
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Verification Reports for this Run
The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.
Anonymous · February 24, 2023
Serial Number 23886747 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · January 11, 2022
Serial Number 23885749 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · October 16, 2021
Serial Number 23886519 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · August 26, 2020
Serial Number 23886189 was reported as accurate.
Joef21 162 · July 1, 2020
Serial Number 23886596 was reported as accurate.
viclip 27 · January 12, 2020
Serial Number 23886672 was reported as inaccurate.
Rxxxxk 1 · April 15, 2018
Serial Number 23885058 was reported as accurate.
Joef21 162 · July 8, 2013
Serial Number 23886596 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · May 10, 2013
Serial Number 23886910 was reported as inaccurate.
No winding indicator
Anonymous · March 18, 2013
Serial Number 23885169 was reported as inaccurate.
Anonymous · February 10, 2013
Serial Number 23885205 was reported as inaccurate.
Anonymous · January 18, 2013
Serial Number 23885749 was reported as inaccurate.
Anonymous · January 9, 2013
Serial Number 23886362 was reported as inaccurate.
Anonymous · December 17, 2012
Serial Number 23886130 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · December 17, 2012
Serial Number 23886130 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · October 11, 2012
Serial Number 23886130 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · October 3, 2012
Serial Number 23.886.130 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · August 13, 2012
Serial Number 23886330 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · April 18, 2012
Serial Number 23886892 was reported as accurate.
