Pocket Watch Database


From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin Grade 74 Pocket Watch
Elgin Grade 74 Pocket Watch

Elgin National Watch Co.

Grade: 74

Private Label(s) in Run:

J.J. Faber - Peoria, Ill.

What is a Private Label?
Manufacturer: Elgin Question Mark
Manufacturer Location: Elgin, Illinois Question Mark
Movement Serial Number: 2429836 Question Mark
Grade: 74 Question Mark
Model: 5 Question Mark
Class: 10 Question Mark
Estimated Production Year: 1887 Question Mark
Run Quantity: 10,000 Question Mark
Grade/Model Run: 3 of 70 Question Mark
Grade/Model Total Production: 159,000 Question Mark
Size: 18s Question Mark
Jewels: 11j Question Mark
Movement Configuration: Openface Question Mark
Movement Finish: Gilt Question Mark
Movement Setting: Pendant Question Mark
Plate: Full Plate Question Mark
Barrel: Going Question Mark
Train: Quick Question Mark
Regulator: Plain Question Mark
Adjusted: No Question Mark
Railroad Grade: No Question Mark
U.S. Patents: 77078, 347272, 345619 Question Mark
Case: Various Question Mark
Run ID: 903.74G3.18S583.185M16.O16.P28.11J330 Question Mark
Data Research: 1896 Elgin Serial List
1904 Elgin Serial List
1915 Elgin Serial List
1927/1950 Elgin Serial List
Question Mark
Database Version: v52.445 Question Mark
Advanced Metrics
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index:
Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
478.71 Question Mark
PWDB Relative Rarity Index:
Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
184.93 Question Mark
Share of Production:
Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
0.314% Question Mark
Registry Population:
Scoped for This Run Only
60 (0.60%) Question Mark
$ Estimated Value (12 Month Change): -6.98% Analyzing 617 Sales Question Mark

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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.


PHIL1199 Supporter 1124 · October 1, 2024

Serial Number 2430229 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · March 7, 2024

Serial Number 2431722 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.

Mobluegrass Supporter 46 · November 4, 2023

Serial Number 2433232 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · June 10, 2022

Serial Number 2433839 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · May 28, 2022

Serial Number 2433840 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 13, 2022

Serial Number 2431463 was reported as accurate.

TerryfromCanada Supporter 486 · April 14, 2021

Serial Number 2429243 was reported as accurate.

miroslav 2 · March 28, 2021

Serial Number 2431463 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · March 6, 2021

Serial Number 2433448 was reported as accurate.

Teezys 180 · February 11, 2021

Serial Number 2428838 was reported as accurate.

Dankace02 3 · January 2, 2021

Serial Number 2430827 was reported as accurate.

Dankace02 3 · December 26, 2020

Serial Number 2430827 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · October 24, 2020

Serial Number 2434404 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 14, 2020

Serial Number 2433967 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · May 23, 2020

Serial Number 2429836 was reported as accurate.

Rcardkidz 4054 · May 14, 2020

Serial Number 2430726 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · February 5, 2020

Serial Number 2429959 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 9, 2020

Serial Number 2431408 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 8, 2020

Serial Number 2431142 was reported as accurate.

r2texas 4 · December 31, 2019

Serial Number 2429011 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Further speculation on 11/14/19 my note concerning
"JJ Faber" and "Peoria, Ill." engraved on
movement: rather than being a private label
notation, this may be the name of the original
purchaser of this watch. Research into the
history of Peoria, Illinois does not reveal a
jeweler/watchmaker named JJ Faber that might have
had the watch private labeled. However, Jacob
John Faber (1858-1942) of Peoria WAS an executive
of Peoria Engraving Co. Possibly, Mr. Faber had
his name engraved on the movement of his watch.
Curator Response: Thanks for the report. If possible, please upload an image of the movement to your collection for further evaluation and documentation.

ksbornholm 2 · December 13, 2019

Serial Number 2425771 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · November 23, 2019

Serial Number 2427642 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · November 14, 2019

Serial Number 2429011 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Information is accurate. However, movement is
engraved: "J.J. Faber" and "Peoria, Ill."

Anonymous · November 14, 2019

Serial Number 2429011 was reported as accurate.

2mnyboxers Supporter 408 · March 12, 2019

Serial Number 2431378 was reported as accurate.

Timjablon 3 · March 12, 2019

Serial Number 2425818 was reported as accurate.

Timjablon 3 · March 12, 2019

Serial Number 2425918 was reported as accurate.

robertsetronics 26 · January 8, 2018

Serial Number 2431652 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · October 18, 2017

Serial Number 2430437 was reported as accurate.

Teezys 180 · August 11, 2017

Serial Number 2425537 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 30, 2017

Serial Number 2425537 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · April 16, 2017

Serial Number 2431142 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · February 26, 2017

Serial Number 2427666 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 3, 2016

Serial Number 2432219 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · June 21, 2016

Serial Number 2427437 was reported as accurate.

dwhita 56 · May 3, 2016

Serial Number 2434192 was reported as accurate.

tictocdoc 47 · April 5, 2016

Serial Number 2433629 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · August 29, 2015

Serial Number 2434567 was reported as accurate.

Guystar 16 · July 15, 2015

Serial Number 2434569 was reported as accurate.

timerestored 278 · February 4, 2015

Serial Number 2426508 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · September 28, 2014

Serial Number 2431862 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · August 1, 2014

Serial Number 2429364 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 14, 2014

Serial Number 2425934 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · May 28, 2014

Serial Number 2430375 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.

Anonymous · September 22, 2013

Serial Number 2428995 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · August 7, 2013

Serial Number 2425502 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 9, 2013

Serial Number 2434316 was reported as accurate.

tkarter 184 · July 9, 2013

Serial Number 2432115 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · May 31, 2013

Serial Number 2427407 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · February 1, 2013

Serial Number 2434733 was reported as accurate.

Elgin Grade 74 Pocket Watch
Elgin Grade 74 Pocket Watch