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From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin Grade 345 Pocket Watch

Elgin National Watch Co.

Grade: 345

Manufacturer: Elgin Question Mark
Manufacturer Location: Elgin, Illinois Question Mark
Movement Serial Number: 27357104 Question Mark
Grade: 345 Question Mark
Model: 3 Question Mark
Class: 114 Question Mark
Estimated Production Year: 1925 Question Mark
Run Quantity: 9,000 Question Mark
Grade/Model Run: 164 of 205 Question Mark
Grade/Model Total Production: 740,900 Question Mark
Variant Est. Production: 726,900 (12S-M3-17J-ONP-U) Question Mark
Size: 12s Question Mark
Jewels: 17j Question Mark
Jewel Material: Ruby & Sapphire Question Mark
Jewel Setting: Screw-Set Question Mark
Movement Configuration: Openface Question Mark
Movement Finish: Nickel Question Mark
Movement Setting: Pendant Question Mark
Plate: 3/4 Plate Question Mark
Double Roller: Yes Question Mark
Barrel: Going Question Mark
Balance Type: Expansion Question Mark
Balance Jewel Material: Ruby Question Mark
Train: Quick Question Mark
Regulator: Moseley Question Mark
Hairspring: Breguet Question Mark
Standard Dial Type: Single-Sunk Question Mark
Adjusted: No Question Mark
Railroad Grade: No Question Mark
U.S. Patents: 596407, 77078, 585025 Question Mark
Case: Various Question Mark
Run ID: 12636.345G164.12S2099.123M1051.O5745.P9689.17J1955 Question Mark
Data Research: 1927/1950 Elgin Serial List
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Database Version: v52.450 Question Mark
Advanced Metrics
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index:
Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
2,230.68 Question Mark
PWDB Relative Rarity Index:
Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
861.95 Question Mark
Share of Production:
Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
1.464% Question Mark
Registry Population:
Scoped for This Run Only
37 (0.41%) Question Mark
$ Estimated Value (12 Month Change): 5.19% Analyzing 2,540 Sales Question Mark
Research Note: #27352080: Verified as Marked "Artistic" (possibly not factory-original).

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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.


Italiankiwi 1 · February 25, 2024

Serial Number 27354101 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 15, 2023

Serial Number 27358144 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · March 25, 2023

Serial Number 27353877 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 26, 2022

Serial Number 27352905 was reported as accurate.

MoatsJustin1 top-contributor 5269 · November 9, 2021

Serial Number 27358300 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 14, 2020

Serial Number 27357767 was reported as accurate.

cliffdobbins 296 · September 30, 2020

Serial Number 27357245 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · April 28, 2020

Serial Number 27353363 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · April 15, 2020

Serial Number 27357528 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · April 14, 2020

Serial Number 27357528 was reported as accurate.

Felix1941 42 · March 28, 2020

Serial Number 27352170 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · March 27, 2020

Serial Number 27352049 was reported as accurate.

okiejohn 387 · February 28, 2020

Serial Number 27352080 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Both the movement and the insIde of back case
cover engraved with "ARTISTIC". (see photo).
Private label?
Curator Response: Thanks for the report and images. The "Artistic" marking does not appear to be factory-original. Perhaps the mark was added by a local jeweler to market a special brand. I have added this to the research notes for the run. A trademark was issued in 1922 for the "Artistic" name, which may be related. https://pocketwatchdatabase.com/reference/trademark/155346/watch-case-movement-clock-artistic

Anonymous · October 8, 2019

Serial Number 27352374 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · February 26, 2019

Serial Number 27360180 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 8, 2018

Serial Number 27352968 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · August 24, 2018

Serial Number 27358904 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 22, 2018

Serial Number 27359218 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · May 3, 2017

Serial Number 27353082 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · March 20, 2017

Serial Number 27354230 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · June 9, 2016

Serial Number 27355018 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 14, 2016

Serial Number 27356490 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · September 11, 2015

Serial Number 27355018 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · September 11, 2015

Serial Number 27355018 was reported as accurate.

334ChrisG 2 · September 11, 2014

Serial Number 27360891 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · June 13, 2014

Serial Number 27354730 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · February 27, 2014

Serial Number 27353732 was reported as accurate.

carl2713 8 · February 14, 2014

Serial Number 27354100 was reported as accurate.

carl2713 8 · September 8, 2013

Serial Number 27354100 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · April 14, 2013

Serial Number 27355357 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · March 27, 2013

Serial Number 27352369 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · February 7, 2013

Serial Number 27352369 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 20, 2013

Serial Number 27356711 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 26, 2012

Serial Number 27352389 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · November 26, 2012

Serial Number 27358712 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · October 12, 2012

Serial Number 27358440 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · September 29, 2012

Serial Number 27355024 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · September 19, 2012

Serial Number 27360973 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 16, 2012

Serial Number 27352533 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 15, 2012

Serial Number 27352377 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: movement signed Artistic
Changes since this report was submitted:
Double Roller changed from Unknown to Yes

Anonymous · April 23, 2012

Serial Number 27360470 was reported as accurate.

Elgin Grade 345 Pocket Watch