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From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin Grade 472 Pocket Watch

Elgin National Watch Co.

Grade: 472

B.W. Raymond

Manufacturer: Elgin
Manufacturer Location: Elgin, Illinois
Movement Serial Number: 29720179
Grade: 472
Variation: B.W. Raymond
Model: 15
Estimated Production Year: 1927
Run Quantity: 1,000
Grade/Model Run: 21 of 21
Grade/Model Total Production: 21,000
Size: 16s
Jewels: 21j
Movement Configuration: Openface
Movement Finish: Nickel
Movement Setting: Lever
Plate: 3/4 Plate
Barrel: Going
Train: Quick
Regulator: Ball
Adjusted: Yes
Adjusted to Position: Yes
Adjusted # of Positions: 5
Adjusted to Temperature: Yes
Adjusted to Isochronism: Yes
Railroad Grade: Yes
Wind Indicator Available: Yes
Wind Indicator Present: Mixed
U.S. Patents: 77078, 596407, 596408
Data Research: 1927/1950 Elgin Serial List
Case: Various
Run ID: 13243.472G21.16S3407.1615M277.O6145.L2388.21J386
Database Version: v52.241
Advanced Metrics
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index:
Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
63.22
PWDB Relative Rarity Index:
Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
24.37
Share of Production:
Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
0.042%
Registry Population: 19 (1.90%)
$ Estimated Value (12 Month Change): 5.14% Analyzing 184 Sales

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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.


ElroyElgin 8 · October 18, 2021

Serial Number 29720479 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · February 10, 2021

Serial Number 29720981 was reported as accurate.

rfarver 9 · March 22, 2020

Serial Number 29720975 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: See my photo, watch is a Model 19, according to
COMPLETE PRICE GUIDE TO WATCHES, 2016
Curator Response: Correct. The Model 19 is simply the wind indicator variation of the Model 15. This run is mixed with wind indactor and standard movements. You can use the original material catalogs as your source material - https://pocketwatchdatabase.com/guide/company/elgin/catalogs/elgin-watch-co-1915-material-catalog/18

rfarver 9 · March 4, 2019

Serial Number 29720925 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Watch has a wind indicator

Anonymous · April 12, 2018

Serial Number 29720999 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 22, 2018

Serial Number 29720908 was reported as accurate.

pjmessmer Supporter 3 · February 17, 2017

Serial Number 29720981 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Nice Elgin 16s B W Raymond up/down that runs a
little
Measures 50 mm
Dial shows no hair lines
Crystal is plastic and shows very light scuffing
Case is yellow gold filled by Keystone J Boss 10
kt gold filled
Case shows very light scuffing (no brass showing)
Movement numbered 29720981

Anonymous · January 21, 2016

Serial Number 29720858 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: No wind indicator present

Anonymous · June 10, 2015

Serial Number 29720593 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: WIND INDICATOR NOT PRESENT

Anonymous · July 10, 2014

Serial Number 29720734 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · November 4, 2013

Serial Number 29720999 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · June 13, 2013

Serial Number 29720089 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · May 22, 2013

Serial Number 29720964 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Wind indicator

Anonymous · July 5, 2012

Serial Number 29720933 was reported as accurate.

Elgin Grade 472 Pocket Watch