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From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin Grade 23 Pocket Watch

Elgin National Watch Co.

Grade: 23

Experimental/Special Run - Please see research notes.

Private Label(s) in Run:
Mermod, Jaccard & Co.
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Manufacturer: Elgin
Manufacturer Location: Elgin, Illinois
Movement Serial Number: 375031
Grade: 23
Variation: Frances Rubie
Model: 2
Class: 46
Estimated Production Year: 1874
Run Quantity: 1,000
Grade/Model Run: 3 of 3
Total Production: 3,000
Size: 10s
Jewels: 15j
Movement Configuration: Adaptable
Movement Finish: Gilt
Movement Setting: Key
Plate: 3/4 Plate
Barrel: Going
Train: Quick
Regulator: Plain
Adjusted: Yes
Railroad Grade: No
U.S. Patents: 77078
Data Research: 1896 Elgin Serial List
1904 Elgin Serial List
1915 Elgin Serial List
1927/1950 Elgin Serial List
Research Note: Factory serial lists designate run as Grade 23 "Frances Rubie." However, after a small batch of Frances Rubie movements, the run is composed of experimental and special order movements.
#375010: Verified as Frances Rubie.
#375028 and #375030: Verified as having features consistent with the 16-Size Model 4 Grade 83.
#375031: Verified as 16-Size Model 4 "Chronograph" featuring a unique timer mechanism added to movement [Heritage Auctions].
#375258: Verified as 18s Private Label for Mermod Jaccard & Co.
#375335 and #375366: Reported as 18s Private Label for Mermod Jaccard & Co.
#375767: Verified as Unfinished 18-Size Model 8 Prototype with 23 Jewels (Gold Jewel Settings, Wheels, and Screws are all in an unfinished state) [JH April 2021].

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pocketwatch101 111 · November 20, 2019

Serial Number 375028 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Elgin Sn375028 is a Elgin Doctors watch. It is a
Sz16. All the of this version Elgin Doctors Watch
are listed as. Sz16, Grd84, Model 4, Lever Set.
The have a sweep second hand. Aparently,
Sn375028 the is a break in Sn's for Elgin.
pocketwatch101
Curator Response: Thanks for the report. This serial number, along with #375030, has previously been recorded in the research notes for the run as being consistent with Grade 84.

Anonymous · May 3, 2017

Serial Number 375039 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 18, 2015

Serial Number 375030 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 14, 2013

Serial Number 375828 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · May 26, 2013

Serial Number 375084 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: movement is pendant set on 375084

Anonymous · August 30, 2012

Serial Number 375001 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.

Anonymous · August 30, 2012

Serial Number 375001 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · June 25, 2012

Serial Number 375082 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: It is 18size 20 jewel,adjusted,nickel finish,gold
settings,dbl sunk dial.
Grade149 hunting and150 open face
(Roy Ehrhardt book 2 Price and ID Guide)

Anonymous · April 17, 2012

Serial Number 375366 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Mine is a 18 size nickel plate, 15 jewels,
adjusted, D.C. Jaccard, St. Louis, Mo. Dial is
Mermod Jaccard & Co., St. Louis, Mo. Serial
numbers all match on balance cock and mainspring
barrel cover
Elgin Grade 23 Pocket Watch