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Access Date: January 24, 2025
From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin National Watch Co.
Grade: 44
Mixed Run: 15-Jewel and 17-Jewel Movements.
| Manufacturer: | Elgin |  |
| Manufacturer Location: | Elgin, Illinois | |
| Movement Serial Number: | 5742124 | |
| Grade: | 44 | |
| Variation: | Mixed | |
| Model: | 5 | |
| Class: | 9 | |
| Estimated Production Year: | 1895 | |
| Run Quantity: | 3,000 | |
| Grade/Model Run: | 41 of 43 | |
| Grade/Model Total Production: | 69,000 | |
| Variant Est. Production: | 3,000 (18S-M5-15J/17J-ONP-A) | |
| Size: | 18s | |
| Jewels: | 15j or 17j Mixed Run | |
| Jewel Setting: | Screw-Set | |
| Movement Configuration: | Openface | |
| Movement Finish: | Nickel | |
| Movement Setting: | Pendant | |
| Plate: | Full Plate | |
| Barrel: | Going | |
| Train: | Quick | |
| Regulator: | Moseley | |
| Adjusted: | Yes | |
| Adjusted to Temperature: | No | |
| Railroad Grade: | No | |
| U.S. Patents: | 77078, 347272, 345619 | |
| Case: | Various | |
| Run ID: | 2258.44G41.18S1296.185M333.O428.P648.1517J37 | |
| Data Research: |
1896 Elgin Serial List 1904 Elgin Serial List 1915 Elgin Serial List 1927/1950 Elgin Serial List |
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| Database Version: | v52.579 | |
| Advanced Metrics | ||
| PWDB Absolute Rarity Index: Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 207.83 | |
| PWDB Relative Rarity Index: Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 80.22 | |
| Share of Production: Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 0.136% | |
| Registry Population: Scoped for This Run Only | 14 (0.47%) | |
| $ Estimated Value (12 Month Change): | -2.61% Analyzing 372 Sales | |
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Research Note: Various reports indicate a mixed run of 15-Jewel and 17-Jewel movements, some marked "Adjusted." Run consists of "G.M. Wheeler" and "Elgin Nat'l Watch Co." variations.
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Production Metrics Tree: Grade 44
Target Profile: 18S-M5-15J/17J-ONP-A-MIXED
| Elgin Grade 44 (All Variations): 69,000 ETP | ||
| 18S: 69,000 100.00% 18s, Grade 44 |
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| 18S-M5: 69,000 100.00% 18s, Grade 44, Model 5 |
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| 18S-M5-15J/17J: 5,000 7.25% 18s, Grade 44, Model 5, 1517 Jewels |
Other: 64,000
Other Jewels or Unclassified |
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| 18S-M5-15J/17J-ONP: 5,000 7.25% 18s, Grade 44, Model 5, 1517 Jewels, Openface/Pendant/Nickel |
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| 18S-M5-15J/17J-ONP-A: 3,000 4.35% | Other: 2,000
Other Adjustments or Unclassified |
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| 18S-M5-15J/17J-ONP-A-MIXED: 3,000 4.35% | ||
Population Registry for This Run
| Image | Serial Number | Run Position | Primary Identification Method | Discovery Date | |
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There are 14 watches in the population registry for this run with 1 image.
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Verification Reports for this Run
The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.
georged Supporter 163 · April 12, 2021
Serial Number 5742553 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · November 22, 2020
Serial Number 5742389 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · August 19, 2020
Serial Number 5741319 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · March 17, 2020
Serial Number 5740897 was reported as accurate.
georged Supporter 163 · June 24, 2019
Serial Number 5742553 was reported as inaccurate.
Note: 15 jewel movement
not a GM Wheeler
not adjusted
not a GM Wheeler
not adjusted
Anonymous · December 23, 2018
Serial Number 5740517 was reported as accurate.
dutyswatch 11 · March 18, 2017
Serial Number 5742394 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · December 13, 2016
Serial Number 5741051 was reported as inaccurate.
Note: My watch is 17 jewels, Adjusted, and marked G. M.
Wheeler.
Wheeler.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
Anonymous · September 9, 2016
Serial Number 5741077 was reported as inaccurate.
No further details were submitted with the report.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
Anonymous · August 4, 2016
Serial Number 5741422 was reported as accurate.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
Please 6 · May 23, 2016
Serial Number 5740705 was reported as inaccurate.
Note: My movement is marked '17 jewels' and is listed as
15 jewels in your archive. My movement is a G. M.
Wheeler
15 jewels in your archive. My movement is a G. M.
Wheeler
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
BikerWatchGuy 15 · February 5, 2016
Serial Number 5742491 was reported as inaccurate.
Note: serial 5,742,491 only 15 jewels (physical count
and factory specs)
not labeled as 'adjusted'
and factory specs)
not labeled as 'adjusted'
Anonymous · May 22, 2014
Serial Number 5742861 was reported as inaccurate.
Note: I have movement #5742861 which is marked as having
17 jewels and as "adjusted".
17 jewels and as "adjusted".
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
Timeswept2 92 · January 20, 2014
Serial Number 5741513 was reported as inaccurate.
Note: Jewel: 17
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
Timeswept2 92 · January 20, 2014
Serial Number 5741513 was reported as accurate.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
Anonymous · November 11, 2013
Serial Number 5740135 was reported as accurate.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
Anonymous · November 4, 2012
Serial Number 5740019 was reported as inaccurate.
Note: Movement contains the word 'adjusted' on the
barrel bridge.
barrel bridge.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
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