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Access Date: December 19, 2024
From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin National Watch Co.
Grade: 150
| Manufacturer: | Elgin |  |
| Manufacturer Location: | Elgin, Illinois | |
| Movement Serial Number: | 6457465 | |
| Grade: | 150 | |
| Model: | 5 | |
| Class: | 7 | |
| Estimated Production Year: | 1897 | |
| Run Quantity: | 1,000 | |
| Grade/Model Run: | 4 of 23 | |
| Grade/Model Total Production: | 7,820 | |
| Variant Est. Production: | 6,820 (18S-M5-21J) | |
| Size: | 18s | |
| Jewels: | 21j | |
| Jewel Material: | Ruby | |
| Jewel Setting: | Gold Settings (Screw-Set) | |
| Movement Configuration: | Openface | |
| Movement Finish: | Nickel | |
| Movement Inlay Color: | Gilt | |
| Movement Setting: | Pendant | |
| Plate: | Full Plate | |
| Barrel: | Going | |
| Train: | Quick | |
| Regulator: | Moseley | |
| Hairspring: | Breguet | |
| Standard Dial Type: | Double-Sunk | |
| Adjusted: | Yes | |
| Adjusted to Position: | Yes | |
| Adjusted # of Positions: | 5 | |
| Adjusted to Temperature: | Yes | |
| Adjusted to Isochronism: | Yes | |
| Adjustment Tolerance: | [14] 3P +/- 10 s/24hrs., Temp. +/- 4 s/16hrs., Reg. +/- 0-2 s/24hrs. | |
| Railroad Grade: | Yes | |
| Railroad Grade Classification: | Class C | |
| U.S. Patents: | 77078, 347272, 345619 | |
| Case: | Various | |
| Run ID: | 2532.150G4.18S1418.185M395.O509.P823.21J10 | |
| Data Research: |
1896 Elgin Serial List 1904 Elgin Serial List 1915 Elgin Serial List 1927/1950 Elgin Serial List |
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| Database Version: | v52.515 | |
| Advanced Metrics | ||
| PWDB Absolute Rarity Index: Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 23.54 | |
| PWDB Relative Rarity Index: Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 9.04 | |
| Share of Production: Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 0.015% | |
| Registry Population: Scoped for This Run Only | 19 (1.90%) | |
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Research Note: According to Elgin Master Records, some Grade 150 movements were modified from pendant-set to lever-set, changing the official grade to 277. While none are specified in the documentation from this run, #6457145, #6457308, #6457327, and #6457534 have been reported as lever-set. #6457817: Verified as Marked "No. 150" and "21 Jewels" on the Barrel Bridge [eBay #274519965502]. #6457036: Verified as Lever-Set with "Adjusted 5 Positions" and "No. 150" Marked on the barrel bridge (appears that it might be a later addition at the factory as the movement was adapted). #6457602: Verified as Lever-Set [eBay #404286726698].
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Production Metrics Tree: Grade 150
Target Profile: 18S-M5-21J-ONP-A5PTI
| Elgin Grade 150 (All Variations): 7,820 ETP | |
| 18S: 7,820 100.00% 18s, Grade 150 |
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| 18S-M5: 7,820 100.00% 18s, Grade 150, Model 5 |
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| 18S-M5-21J: 6,820 87.21% 18s, Grade 150, Model 5, 21 Jewels |
Other: 1,000
Other Jewels or Unclassified |
| 18S-M5-21J-ONP: 6,820 87.21% 18s, Grade 150, Model 5, 21 Jewels, Openface/Pendant/Nickel |
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| 18S-M5-21J-ONP-A5PTI: 6,820 87.21% | |
Population Registry for This Run
| Image | Serial Number | Run Position | Primary Identification Method | Discovery Date | |
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There are 19 watches in the population registry for this run with 3 images.
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Verification Reports for this Run
The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.
Billibrit 10 · May 31, 2023
Serial Number 6457132 was reported as accurate.
cranemaker Supporter 83 · May 13, 2023
Serial Number 6457602 was reported as inaccurate.
eBay.
awalker1829 Supporter 74 · May 12, 2023
Serial Number 6457602 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · May 3, 2023
Serial Number 6457182 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · July 28, 2022
Serial Number 6457977 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · February 17, 2022
Serial Number 6457036 was reported as inaccurate.
"21" and is also marked "5 Positions" between
"Adjusted" and "Jewels" on the barrel plate
Anonymous · August 3, 2021
Serial Number 6457377 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · April 13, 2021
Serial Number 6457222 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · June 16, 2019
Serial Number 6457337 was reported as accurate.
Gatorelf 8 · March 16, 2019
Serial Number 6457144 was reported as accurate.
cranemaker Supporter 83 · February 15, 2019
Serial Number 6457327 was reported as inaccurate.
Anonymous · February 12, 2019
Serial Number 6457337 was reported as accurate.
Snapper Supporter 148 · February 8, 2019
Serial Number 6457327 was reported as accurate.
tobpec Supporter 31 · May 15, 2018
Serial Number 6457934 was reported as accurate.
mosechun 1 · March 10, 2018
Serial Number 6457534 was reported as inaccurate.
time setting.
Anonymous · October 11, 2017
Serial Number 6457597 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · February 9, 2017
Serial Number 6457837 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · November 25, 2016
Serial Number 6457123 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · December 5, 2015
Serial Number 6457588 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · August 30, 2015
Serial Number 6457308 was reported as inaccurate.
Anonymous · June 29, 2014
Serial Number 6457337 was reported as accurate.
69abody 166 · October 25, 2013
Serial Number 6457293 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · September 9, 2013
Serial Number 6457455 was reported as inaccurate.
adjusted. Also, do not the plate screw your
drawing shows right above the o & c in the word
cock.
Anonymous · February 22, 2013
Serial Number 6457145 was reported as inaccurate.
set while most 150's are pendent set. Don't know
why but it is Lever Set. Also marked 21 Jewels
and 5 Adjustments. Hybrid?????
Anonymous · September 10, 2012
Serial Number 6457906 was reported as inaccurate.
adjusted
Anonymous · June 18, 2012
Serial Number 6457390 was reported as inaccurate.
Anonymous · June 17, 2012
Serial Number 6457119 was reported as inaccurate.
Anonymous · May 18, 2012
Serial Number 6457263 was reported as inaccurate.
been up-jeweled from 20.
Anonymous · May 18, 2012
Serial Number 6457263 was reported as inaccurate.
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