Pocket Watch Database

From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin Grade 239 Pocket Watch
Elgin Grade 239 Pocket Watch

Elgin National Watch Co.

Grade: 239

Veritas - Mixed Run: 21-Jewel and 23-Jewel Movements

Manufacturer: Elgin
Manufacturer Location: Elgin, Illinois
Movement Serial Number: 9495822
Grade: 239
Variation: Veritas
Model: 8
Generation: First
Class: 90
Estimated Production Year: 1902
Run Quantity: 1,000
Grade/Model Run: 5 of 17
Grade/Model Total Production: 18,800
Variant Est. Production: 16,500 (18S-M8-21J-ONL-A5PTI-VERITAS)
Grade/Model Unrealized Production: 1,200
Size: 18s
Jewels: 21j    Mixed Run
Jewel Material: Ruby
Jewel Setting: Raised Gold Settings (Screw-Set)
Movement Configuration: Openface
Movement Finish: Nickel
Movement Signing Style: Mixed
Movement Inlay Color: Black
Movement Setting: Lever
Plate: 3/4 Plate
Barrel: Safety
Balance Jewel Material: Diamond
Train: Quick
Train Material: Gold
Center Wheel Material: Gold
Regulator: Moseley
Hairspring: Breguet
Escapement Type: Straight-line
Pallet Jewel Material: Sapphire
Standard Dial Type: Double-Sunk
Adjusted: Yes
Adjusted to Position: Yes
Adjusted # of Positions: 5
Adjusted to Temperature: Yes
Adjusted to Isochronism: Yes
Railroad Grade: Yes
Railroad Grade Classification: Class A
Wind Indicator: No
U.S. Patents: 596407, 77078, 596408
Movement Markings: Veritas
Elgin, Ill.
U.S.A.
23 Jewels
Adjusted
Safety Barrel
Data Research: 1904 Elgin Serial List
1915 Elgin Serial List
1927/1950 Elgin Serial List
Case: Various
Run ID: 3855.239G5.18S1978.188M13.O1065.L1431.21J87
Database Version: v52.219
Advanced Metrics
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index:
Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
56.29
PWDB Relative Rarity Index:
Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
21.82
Share of Production:
Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
0.037%
Registry Population: 12 (1.20%)
$ Estimated Value (12 Month Change): 2.88% Analyzing 212 Sales
Research Note: Some 23-Jewel Movements Reported in Run. #9495414: Verified as 21-Jewels. #9495344: Verified as 23-Jewels.

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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.


fasteddies 3 · December 29, 2023

Serial Number 9495844 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · June 9, 2022

Serial Number 9495068 was reported as accurate.

CJEmpire3 100 · September 13, 2021

Serial Number 9495414 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · February 25, 2020

Serial Number 9495677 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Double Roller changed from Yes to No

senorchisme 17 · April 28, 2019

Serial Number 9495333 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Double Roller changed from Yes to No

Anonymous · December 7, 2018

Serial Number 9495292 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Movement has 21 jewels buy your database shows 23
jewels
Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 23j to 21j
Double Roller changed from Yes to No

Anonymous · April 5, 2017

Serial Number 9495082 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 23j to 21j

Anonymous · April 2, 2017

Serial Number 9495344 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Elgin-23J-Varitas-18s-Pock
et-Watch-Running/152492816894?_trksid=p2047675.c10
0005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE
%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D40130%26meid%3Dd3525fdb89f648de9
2088c163da6598a%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D6%
26sd%3D352016896902
is marked 23 jewels, not 21 jewels

Anonymous · September 5, 2014

Serial Number 9495765 was reported as accurate.

alandye 52 · March 5, 2014

Serial Number 9495822 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes

Anonymous · February 22, 2014

Serial Number 9495822 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes

usncrdp 5 · January 7, 2014

Serial Number 9495398 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes

Anonymous · March 25, 2013

Serial Number 9495344 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: This interesting movement has a non-jeweled Motor
Barrel mainspring and does not have a Winding
Indicator. A Veritas that doesn't fit the
norm.....????
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes

Anonymous · March 9, 2013

Serial Number 9495344 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: My watch is a 23Jewel Veritas and is NOT a wind
indicator. *****@aol.com
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
Elgin Grade 239 Pocket Watch
Elgin Grade 239 Pocket Watch