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Access Date: December 14, 2024
From the American Horology Archive:
American Waltham Watch Co.
Grade: Seaside
Mixed Run: 7-Jewel and 15-Jewel Examples Reported
| Manufacturer: | Waltham |  |
| Manufacturer Location: | Waltham, Massachusetts | |
| Movement Serial Number: | 8345046 | |
| Grade: | Seaside | |
| Model: | 1891 | |
| Estimated Production Year: | 1897 | |
| Run Quantity: | 8,000 | |
| Grade/Model Run: | 16 of 103 | |
| Grade/Model Total Production: | 961,289 | |
| Size: | 0s | |
| Jewels: | 7j Mixed Run | |
| Movement Configuration: | Hunting | |
| Movement Finish: | Nickel | |
| Movement Setting: | Pendant | |
| Adjusted: | No | |
| Railroad Grade: | No | |
| Case: | Various | |
| Run ID: | 15917.G193.0S285.01891M254.H4622.P2355.7J4559 | |
| Data Research: |
1954 Waltham "Gray Book" List NAWCC Waltham Serial Digest |
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| Database Version: | v52.508 | |
| Advanced Metrics | ||
| PWDB Absolute Rarity Index: Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 2,168.63 | |
| PWDB Relative Rarity Index: Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 1,973.45 | |
| Share of Production: Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 2.156% | |
| Registry Population: Scoped for This Run Only | 29 (0.36%) | |
| $ Estimated Value (12 Month Change): | -19.05% Analyzing 1,012 Sales | |
Population Registry for This Run
| Image | Serial Number | Run Position | Primary Identification Method | Discovery Date | |
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There are 29 watches in the population registry for this run with 1 image.
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Verification Reports for this Run
The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.
Anonymous · February 28, 2024
Serial Number 8349636 was reported as accurate.
MoatsJustin1 top-contributor 5272 · November 27, 2023
Serial Number 8345716 was reported as accurate.
Lavern 25 · July 30, 2023
Serial Number 8347034 was reported as inaccurate.
Note: This movement is hunter case 7 jewel.
Curator Response: Thanks for the report. The database has been updated accordingly.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Configuration changed from Openface to Hunting
Anonymous · November 28, 2022
Serial Number 8349351 was reported as inaccurate.
No further details were submitted with the report.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Configuration changed from Openface to Hunting
Anonymous · May 18, 2022
Serial Number 8348476 was reported as accurate.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Configuration changed from Openface to Hunting
Anonymous · January 22, 2022
Serial Number 8345330 was reported as accurate.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Configuration changed from Openface to Hunting
Bluntflame 1 · September 7, 2020
Serial Number 8344078 was reported as inaccurate.
Note: The book that was used to source information on
this specific run is full of inaccuracies, and has
been proven so. Is there any newer books that may
help out us new collectors of pocket watches in
getting accurate information on our acquisitions?
this specific run is full of inaccuracies, and has
been proven so. Is there any newer books that may
help out us new collectors of pocket watches in
getting accurate information on our acquisitions?
Curator Response: The "Gray Book" used to source the information was published by the Waltham Watch Company in the 1950s. While it contains inaccuracies, this is still the best resource for identifying Waltham watches from this era. This information, including notes about possible inaccuracies, is displayed on the source research pages previously linked: https://pocketwatchdatabase.com/guide/company/waltham/source/waltham-gray-book-serial-list/42. The "Seaside" runs are notorious for being mixed with different variants. However, it is easy to identify jewel counts and setting mechanisms for identification. You do not need a book or a database to do this.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Configuration changed from Openface to Hunting
Anonymous · September 6, 2020
Serial Number 8344078 was reported as inaccurate.
Note: Mind is NOT a pendant set (I can't figure out
what it is), and is a sidewinder. Please do proper
research into this run.
what it is), and is a sidewinder. Please do proper
research into this run.
Curator Response: You are welcome to do "proper" research into this run. https://pocketwatchdatabase.com/guide/company/waltham/source/waltham-gray-book-serial-list/42
Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Configuration changed from Openface to Hunting
Anonymous · July 22, 2020
Serial Number 8346799 was reported as accurate.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Configuration changed from Openface to Hunting
Anonymous · July 11, 2020
Serial Number 8349084 was reported as inaccurate.
No further details were submitted with the report.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Configuration changed from Openface to Hunting
Anonymous · June 5, 2020
Serial Number 8347525 was reported as accurate.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Configuration changed from Openface to Hunting
Anonymous · April 19, 2020
Serial Number 8347525 was reported as accurate.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Configuration changed from Openface to Hunting
wilsie 6 · September 8, 2019
Serial Number 8351686 was reported as accurate.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Configuration changed from Openface to Hunting
wilsie 6 · September 7, 2019
Serial Number 8351686 was reported as accurate.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Configuration changed from Openface to Hunting
Redox1911 3 · June 10, 2018
Serial Number 8350727 was reported as accurate.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Configuration changed from Openface to Hunting
Anonymous · March 13, 2018
Serial Number 8350727 was reported as accurate.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Configuration changed from Openface to Hunting
Anonymous · January 13, 2018
Serial Number 8350727 was reported as accurate.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Configuration changed from Openface to Hunting
Anonymous · November 28, 2017
Serial Number 8350727 was reported as accurate.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Configuration changed from Openface to Hunting
Anonymous · March 6, 2017
Serial Number 8348658 was reported as accurate.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Configuration changed from Openface to Hunting
Anonymous · January 12, 2017
Serial Number 8351110 was reported as inaccurate.
Note: 15 JEWELS
Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Configuration changed from Openface to Hunting
Anonymous · February 11, 2015
Serial Number 8348598 was reported as inaccurate.
No further details were submitted with the report.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Configuration changed from Openface to Hunting
Anonymous · February 11, 2015
Serial Number 8348598 was reported as accurate.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Configuration changed from Openface to Hunting
chingalia 193 · November 12, 2014
Serial Number 8346857 was reported as accurate.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Configuration changed from Openface to Hunting
globetrotter 1 · September 11, 2014
Serial Number 8346307 was reported as accurate.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Configuration changed from Openface to Hunting
Anonymous · September 11, 2014
Serial Number 8346307 was reported as accurate.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Configuration changed from Openface to Hunting
Anonymous · April 17, 2014
Serial Number 8345165 was reported as accurate.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Configuration changed from Openface to Hunting
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