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Access Date: December 21, 2024
From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin National Watch Co.
Grade: 214
Veritas
| Manufacturer: | Elgin |  |
| Manufacturer Location: | Elgin, Illinois | |
| Movement Serial Number: | 8401860 | |
| Grade: | 214 | |
| Variation: | Veritas | |
| Model: | 8 | |
| Generation: | First | |
| Class: | 89 | |
| Estimated Production Year: | 1901 | |
| Run Quantity: | 2,000 | |
| Grade/Model Run: | 1 of 22 | |
| Grade/Model Total Production: | 22,700 | |
| Variant Est. Production: | 19,700 (18S-M8-23J-ONL-A5PTI-VERITAS) | |
| Grade/Model Unrealized Production: | 1,300 | |
| Size: | 18s | |
| Jewels: | 23j | |
| Jewel Material: | Ruby | |
| Jewel Setting: | Raised Gold Settings (Screw-Set) | |
| Movement Configuration: | Openface | |
| Movement Finish: | Nickel | |
| Movement Signing Style: | Mixed | |
| Movement Inlay Color: | Black | |
| Movement Setting: | Lever | |
| Plate: | 3/4 Plate | |
| Double Roller: | Yes | |
| Barrel: | Jeweled Safety | |
| Balance Jewel Material: | Diamond | |
| Train: | Quick | |
| Train Material: | Gold | |
| Regulator: | Traveling Nut (spring) | |
| Hairspring: | Breguet | |
| Escapement Type: | Straight Line | |
| Pallet Jewel Material: | Sapphire | |
| Standard Dial Type: | Double-Sunk | |
| Adjusted: | Yes | |
| Adjusted to Position: | Yes | |
| Adjusted # of Positions: | 5 | |
| Adjusted to Temperature: | Yes | |
| Adjusted to Isochronism: | Yes | |
| Adjustment Tolerance: | [10] 5P +/- 10 s/24hrs., Temp. +/- 3 s/16hrs., Reg. +/- 0-2 s/24hrs. | |
| Railroad Grade: | Yes | |
| Railroad Grade Classification: | Class A | |
| U.S. Patents: | 596407, 77078, 596408 | |
| Movement Markings: | Veritas Elgin, Ill. U.S.A. 23 Jewels Safety Barrel Adjusted |
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| Case: | Various | |
| Run ID: | 3377.214G1.18S1810.188M1.O868.L1337.23J4 | |
| Data Research: |
1904 Elgin Serial List 1915 Elgin Serial List 1927/1950 Elgin Serial List |
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| Database Version: | v52.517 | |
| Advanced Metrics | ||
| PWDB Absolute Rarity Index: Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 68.34 | |
| PWDB Relative Rarity Index: Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 26.35 | |
| Share of Production: Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 0.045% | |
| Registry Population: Scoped for This Run Only | 37 (1.85%) | |
Production Metrics Tree: Grade 214
Target Profile: 18S-M8-23J-ONL-A5PTI-VERITAS
| Elgin Grade 214 (All Variations): 22,700 ETP | |
| 18S: 22,700 100.00% 18s, Grade 214 |
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| 18S-M8: 22,700 100.00% 18s, Grade 214, Model 8 |
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| 18S-M8-23J: 22,700 100.00% 18s, Grade 214, Model 8, 23 Jewels |
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| 18S-M8-23J-ONL: 22,700 100.00% 18s, Grade 214, Model 8, 23 Jewels, Openface/Lever/Nickel |
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| 18S-M8-23J-ONL-A5PTI: 22,700 100.00% | |
| 18S-M8-23J-ONL-A5PTI-VERITAS: 19,700 86.78% | Other: 3,000
Other Variants or Unclassified |
| NOTE: 24,000 Units Originally Reserved with Est. 1,300 Never Manufactured | |
Population Registry for This Run
| Image | Serial Number | Run Position | Primary Identification Method | Discovery Date | |
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There are 37 watches in the population registry for this run with 5 images.
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Verification Reports for this Run
The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.
ultimatekaiser 48 · July 10, 2023
Serial Number 8401476 was reported as accurate.
ultimatekaiser 48 · April 8, 2023
Serial Number 8400812 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · March 12, 2023
Serial Number 8401514 was reported as accurate.
keywind 13 · March 12, 2023
Serial Number 8401860 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · May 1, 2022
Serial Number 8401947 was reported as accurate.
medhamred Supporter 144 · April 30, 2022
Serial Number 8401297 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · June 22, 2021
Serial Number 8401475 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · September 26, 2020
Serial Number 8400371 was reported as inaccurate.
Anonymous · July 26, 2020
Serial Number 8400561 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · April 27, 2020
Serial Number 8400155 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · April 9, 2020
Serial Number 8400155 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · April 7, 2020
Serial Number 8400155 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · April 4, 2020
Serial Number 8400155 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · April 1, 2020
Serial Number 8400363 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · February 18, 2020
Serial Number 8401567 was reported as accurate.
dfchong 837 · February 16, 2020
Serial Number 8401567 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · November 20, 2019
Serial Number 8400382 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · July 2, 2019
Serial Number 8400907 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · September 23, 2017
Serial Number 8400905 was reported as accurate.
rubber 37 · September 16, 2017
Serial Number 8400834 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · June 16, 2017
Serial Number 8401539 was reported as inaccurate.
Anonymous · May 24, 2017
Serial Number 8400203 was reported as accurate.
dfchong 837 · December 11, 2016
Serial Number 8401059 was reported as accurate.
dfchong 837 · August 26, 2016
Serial Number 8401567 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · August 12, 2016
Serial Number 8401567 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · July 27, 2016
Serial Number 8401778 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · July 24, 2016
Serial Number 8401778 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · July 13, 2016
Serial Number 8401995 was reported as accurate.
jdoyle53 4 · December 28, 2014
Serial Number 8402000 was reported as accurate.
melston74 2 · September 9, 2014
Serial Number 8400018 was reported as accurate.
melston74 2 · September 9, 2014
Serial Number 8400018 was reported as accurate.
barrypiggott 88 · August 7, 2014
Serial Number 8401080 was reported as accurate.
Mobilaero Top Contributor Supporter 307 · May 31, 2014
Serial Number 8401426 was reported as accurate.
jerrydk7 227 · March 13, 2014
Serial Number 8401648 was reported as accurate.
rocket00 236 · February 12, 2014
Serial Number 8401775 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · July 23, 2013
Serial Number 8401659 was reported as accurate.
oceanica 13 · July 10, 2013
Serial Number 8401483 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · June 22, 2013
Serial Number 8401086 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · May 11, 2013
Serial Number 8400818 was reported as inaccurate.
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Anonymous · March 28, 2013
Serial Number 8401780 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · January 18, 2013
Serial Number 8401090 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · January 18, 2013
Serial Number 8401433 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · January 1, 2013
Serial Number 8400019 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · November 26, 2012
Serial Number 8401588 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · October 9, 2012
Serial Number 8400012 was reported as inaccurate.
Anonymous · October 6, 2012
Serial Number 8401491 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · September 25, 2012
Serial Number 8400348 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · August 23, 2012
Serial Number 8401166 was reported as inaccurate.
Anonymous · June 23, 2012
Serial Number 8401648 was reported as accurate.
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