Pocket Watch Database


From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin Grade 81 Pocket Watch

Elgin National Watch Co.

Grade: 81

Mixed: G.M. Wheeler or Elgin Nat'l Watch Co.

Manufacturer: Elgin Question Mark
Manufacturer Location: Elgin, Illinois Question Mark
Movement Serial Number: 1672160 Question Mark
Grade: 81 Question Mark
Variation: Mixed Question Mark
Model: 1 Question Mark
Class: 4 Question Mark
Estimated Production Year: 1885 Question Mark
Run Quantity: 5,000 Question Mark
Grade/Model Run: 11 of 13 Question Mark
Grade/Model Total Production: 53,000 Question Mark
Variant Est. Production: 9,000 (18S-M1-15J-HGK-U-MIXED) Question Mark
Size: 18s Question Mark
Jewels: 15j Question Mark
Movement Configuration: Adaptable Question Mark
Movement Finish: Gilt Question Mark
Movement Signing Style: Formal Script Question Mark
Movement Inlay Color: None Question Mark
Movement Setting: Key Question Mark
Plate: Full Plate Question Mark
Barrel: Going Question Mark
Train: Quick Question Mark
Regulator: Moseley Question Mark
Adjusted: No Question Mark
Railroad Grade: No Question Mark
U.S. Patents: 77078 Question Mark
Movement Markings: G.M. Wheeler [or "Elgin Nat'l Watch Co.]
Elgin, Ill.
Patent Pinion
Case: Various Question Mark
Run ID: 783.81G11.18S516.181M401.H729.K508.15J207 Question Mark
Data Research: 1896 Elgin Serial List
1904 Elgin Serial List
1915 Elgin Serial List
1927/1950 Elgin Serial List
Question Mark
Database Version: v52.449 Question Mark
Advanced Metrics
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index:
Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
159.57 Question Mark
PWDB Relative Rarity Index:
Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
61.61 Question Mark
Share of Production:
Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
0.105% Question Mark
Registry Population:
Scoped for This Run Only
34 (0.68%) Question Mark
$ Estimated Value (12 Month Change): -2.10% Analyzing 82 Sales Question Mark

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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.


TerryfromCanada Supporter 486 · November 5, 2024

Serial Number 1671096 was reported as accurate.

23Greenwich Supporter 249 · September 9, 2022

Serial Number 1674190 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · April 14, 2021

Serial Number 1672920 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 5, 2021

Serial Number 1674421 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 3, 2020

Serial Number 1670980 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: The model is 2-4, configuration Hunting.
Curator Response: Thanks for the report. "2-4" is not a model designation. This was a consolidation used in later catalogs for simplicity. Is your particular watch lever-set? If so, have you removed the dial to inspect the setting mechanism? Factory serial lists designate this run as Keywind/Keyset.

Anonymous · July 7, 2020

Serial Number 1674118 was reported as accurate.

Rickhufnagel7 Top Contributor Elgin Expert Hampden Expert Supporter 630 · November 13, 2019

Serial Number 1672972 was reported as accurate.

Rickhufnagel7 Top Contributor Elgin Expert Hampden Expert Supporter 630 · September 8, 2019

Serial Number 1672160 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · June 16, 2019

Serial Number 1674991 was reported as accurate.

colaman6mcq Supporter 151 · July 28, 2017

Serial Number 1674800 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · May 7, 2017

Serial Number 1670473 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · October 1, 2016

Serial Number 1674918 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 13j to 15j

Anonymous · October 1, 2016

Serial Number 1674918 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 13j to 15j

Anonymous · April 5, 2016

Serial Number 1671351 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 13j to 15j

Anonymous · November 3, 2013

Serial Number 1674939 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 13j to 15j

Anonymous · September 10, 2013

Serial Number 1672992 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 13j to 15j

Anonymous · February 10, 2013

Serial Number 1673806 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 13j to 15j
Elgin Grade 81 Pocket Watch