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Access Date: December 30, 2024
From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin Grade 81 Pocket Watch
Elgin National Watch Co.

Grade: 81

Mixed Variations: "G.M. Wheeler" and "Elgin Nat'l Watch Co." Verified in Run.

Manufacturer: Elgin Question Mark
Manufacturer Location: Elgin, Illinois Question Mark
Movement Serial Number: 1867573 Question Mark
Grade: 81 Question Mark
Variation: Mixed Question Mark
Model: 1 Question Mark
Class: 4 Question Mark
Estimated Production Year: 1886 Question Mark
Run Quantity: 4,000 Question Mark
Grade/Model Run: 13 of 13 Question Mark
Grade/Model Total Production: 53,000 Question Mark
Variant Est. Production: 9,000 (18S-M1-15J-HGK-U-MIXED) Question Mark
Size: 18s Question Mark
Jewels: 15j Question Mark
Movement Configuration: Adaptable Question Mark
Movement Finish: Gilt Question Mark
Movement Setting: Key Question Mark
Plate: Full Plate Question Mark
Barrel: Going Question Mark
Train: Quick Question Mark
Adjusted: No Question Mark
Railroad Grade: No Question Mark
U.S. Patents: 77078 Question Mark
Case: Various Question Mark
Run ID: 819.81G13.18S539.181M410.H753.K518.15J226 Question Mark
Data Research: 1896 Elgin Serial List
1904 Elgin Serial List
1915 Elgin Serial List
1927/1950 Elgin Serial List
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Database Version: v52.529 Question Mark
Advanced Metrics
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index:
Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration		 159.57 Question Mark
PWDB Relative Rarity Index:
Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration		 61.61 Question Mark
Share of Production:
Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration		 0.105% Question Mark
Registry Population:
Scoped for This Run Only		47 (1.18%) Question Mark
$ Estimated Value (12 Month Change): -11.89% Analyzing 83 Sales Question Mark
Research Note: Mixed Variations: #1866410 Verified as "Elgin Nat'l Watch Co." #1867987 Verified as "G.M. Wheeler."
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Production Metrics Tree: Grade 81

Target Profile: 18S-M1-15J-HGK-U-MIXED

Elgin Grade 81 (All Variations): 53,000 ETP
18S: 53,000 100.00%
18s, Grade 81
18S-M1: 53,000 100.00%
18s, Grade 81, Model 1
18S-M1-15J: 10,000 18.87%
18s, Grade 81, Model 1, 15 Jewels		 Other: 43,000
Other Jewels or Unclassified
18S-M1-15J-HGK: 10,000 18.87%
18s, Grade 81, Model 1, 15 Jewels, Adaptable/Key/Gilt
18S-M1-15J-HGK-U: 10,000 18.87%
18S-M1-15J-HGK-U-MIXED: 9,000 16.98% Other: 1,000
Other Variants or Unclassified

Population Registry for This Run

Image Serial Number Run Position Primary Identification Method Discovery Date
There are 47 watches in the population registry for this run with 5 images.
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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.

Rcardkidz 4142 · April 7, 2023

Serial Number 1866942 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · June 20, 2022

Serial Number 1868105 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · May 20, 2022

Serial Number 1865484 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 12, 2022

Serial Number 1866410 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 5, 2022

Serial Number 1865136 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 5, 2022

Serial Number 1866410 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · February 24, 2021

Serial Number 1865398 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 21, 2020

Serial Number 1865398 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · October 13, 2020

Serial Number 1865106 was reported as accurate.

bubba70 543 · October 11, 2020

Serial Number 1867875 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · October 6, 2020

Serial Number 1866580 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · May 3, 2020

Serial Number 1866189 was reported as accurate.

Rickhufnagel7 Top Contributor Elgin Expert Hampden Expert Supporter 630 · August 31, 2019

Serial Number 1867573 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · March 17, 2019

Serial Number 1865940 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · May 13, 2018

Serial Number 1866965 was reported as accurate.

wmike565 Supporter 115 · March 14, 2018

Serial Number 1866410 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Marked Elgin Nat'l Watch Co, not GM Wheeler

Anonymous · May 24, 2017

Serial Number 1865388 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · February 26, 2017

Serial Number 1868105 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 11, 2016

Serial Number 1866390 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · February 26, 2016

Serial Number 1866136 was reported as accurate.

pivotkiller 23 · July 28, 2015

Serial Number 1867987 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: 15 jewel movement (both top and bottom plates have
4 jeweled holes; serial number matches both
plates).
Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 13j to 15j

Anonymous · March 28, 2015

Serial Number 1867987 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 13j to 15j

Anonymous · September 2, 2014

Serial Number 1866651 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 13j to 15j

Anonymous · September 2, 2014

Serial Number 1866651 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 13j to 15j

Anonymous · January 1, 2014

Serial Number 1866584 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 13j to 15j

Anonymous · June 2, 2013

Serial Number 1865020 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 13j to 15j

Anonymous · May 14, 2013

Serial Number 1865954 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 13j to 15j

Anonymous · March 26, 2013

Serial Number 1865805 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 13j to 15j

Anonymous · January 21, 2013

Serial Number 1866987 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 13j to 15j

Anonymous · August 20, 2012

Serial Number 1867573 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Movement signed 'Gibson & Felt' not 'G.M.Wheeler'
Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 13j to 15j
Elgin Grade 81 Pocket Watch