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Access Date: December 25, 2024
From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin Grade 94 Pocket Watch
Elgin National Watch Co.

Grade: 94

Mixed Run: 6-Size and 8-Size Examples Confirmed

Manufacturer: Elgin Question Mark
Manufacturer Location: Elgin, Illinois Question Mark
Movement Serial Number: 2169456 Question Mark
Grade: 94 Question Mark
Model: 1 Question Mark
Class: 52 Question Mark
Estimated Production Year: 1887 Question Mark
Run Quantity: 20,000 Question Mark
Grade/Model Run: 1 of 44 Question Mark
Grade/Model Total Production: 188,000 Question Mark
Size: 6s Question Mark
Jewels: 11j Question Mark
Movement Configuration: Hunting Question Mark
Movement Finish: Gilt Question Mark
Movement Setting: Lever Question Mark
Plate: 3/4 Plate Question Mark
Barrel: Going Question Mark
Train: Quick Question Mark
Regulator: Plain Question Mark
Adjusted: No Question Mark
Railroad Grade: No Question Mark
U.S. Patents: 77078 Question Mark
Case: Various Question Mark
Run ID: 857.94G9.6S4.61M4.H785.L316.11J315 Question Mark
Data Research: 1896 Elgin Serial List
1904 Elgin Serial List
1915 Elgin Serial List
1927/1950 Elgin Serial List
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Database Version: v52.526 Question Mark
Advanced Metrics
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index:
Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration		 566.02 Question Mark
PWDB Relative Rarity Index:
Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration		 218.67 Question Mark
Share of Production:
Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration		 0.372% Question Mark
Registry Population:
Scoped for This Run Only		78 (0.39%) Question Mark
$ Estimated Value (12 Month Change): -16.08% Analyzing 358 Sales Question Mark
Research Note: Mixed Size Run 6s/8s. #2169032, #2168691, #2160851, and #2175823 Verified as 6-Size. #2164917 Verified as 8-Size. Movements later in run are more likely to be 6-Size.
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Production Metrics Tree: Grade 94

Target Profile: 6S-M1-11J-HGL-U

Elgin Grade 94 (All Variations): 273,000 ETP
6S: 188,000 68.86%
6s, Grade 94		 Other: 85,000
Other Sizes or Unclassified
6S-M1: 188,000 68.86%
6s, Grade 94, Model 1
6S-M1-11J: 188,000 68.86%
6s, Grade 94, Model 1, 11 Jewels
6S-M1-11J-HGL: 188,000 68.86%
6s, Grade 94, Model 1, 11 Jewels, Hunting/Lever/Gilt
6S-M1-11J-HGL-U: 188,000 68.86%

Population Registry for This Run

Image Serial Number Run Position Primary Identification Method Discovery Date
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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.

Rcardkidz 4135 · April 19, 2024

Serial Number 2175954 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · November 20, 2021

Serial Number 2163259 was reported as accurate.

MoatsJustin1 top-contributor 5272 · October 29, 2021

Serial Number 2179228 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 19, 2021

Serial Number 2160924 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 12, 2021

Serial Number 2164463 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · June 27, 2021

Serial Number 2176910 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · March 17, 2021

Serial Number 2178220 was reported as accurate.

MoatsJustin1 top-contributor 5272 · December 3, 2020

Serial Number 2169365 was reported as accurate.

MoatsJustin1 top-contributor 5272 · December 3, 2020

Serial Number 2162803 was reported as accurate.

darcibowles 1 · September 22, 2020

Serial Number 2179012 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 6, 2020

Serial Number 2175719 was reported as accurate.

time2ski 2 · February 21, 2020

Serial Number 2178770 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · February 21, 2020

Serial Number 2178770 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 30, 2020

Serial Number 2163426 was reported as accurate.

tomkingtx 14 · November 12, 2019

Serial Number 2160851 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · October 17, 2019

Serial Number 2163947 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · October 15, 2019

Serial Number 2175967 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · August 30, 2019

Serial Number 2173755 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · June 20, 2019

Serial Number 2164541 was reported as accurate.

2mnyboxers Supporter 408 · May 9, 2019

Serial Number 2172772 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · March 29, 2019

Serial Number 2175638 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · March 17, 2019

Serial Number 2174739 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · March 17, 2019

Serial Number 2174739 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 31, 2018

Serial Number 2162141 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 6, 2018

Serial Number 2165432 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 6, 2018

Serial Number 2165432 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.

Anonymous · February 8, 2018

Serial Number 2177499 was reported as accurate.

amcfarlane Supporter 32 · September 26, 2017

Serial Number 2163871 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Photo of movement shows "15 Jewels" engraved on
it.
Curator Response: Thanks for the report. Elgin Grade 94 is exclusively 11 jewels. Occasionally, watches will be found with an after-market stamping indicating an incorrect jewel count. If you upload a photo of the movement to your collection, I would be happy to verify.

amcfarlane Supporter 32 · September 23, 2017

Serial Number 2163871 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · September 2, 2017

Serial Number 2169739 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · September 2, 2017

Serial Number 2166772 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 15, 2017

Serial Number 2177338 was reported as accurate.

Twinklebich 1 · June 10, 2017

Serial Number 2164389 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · April 12, 2017

Serial Number 2160676 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · February 25, 2017

Serial Number 2161821 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Size changed from 8 to 6

Anonymous · February 20, 2017

Serial Number 2161821 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Size changed from 8 to 6

Anonymous · January 1, 2017

Serial Number 2176559 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Size changed from 8 to 6

rtwatches 943 · September 8, 2016

Serial Number 2170349 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Size changed from 8 to 6

wdpayne 12 · June 3, 2016

Serial Number 2169456 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: it is a 6s not an 8s
Changes since this report was submitted:
Size changed from 8 to 6

Anonymous · January 3, 2016

Serial Number 2174060 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.

Anonymous · November 26, 2015

Serial Number 2178306 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.

crispy 325 · July 1, 2015

Serial Number 2163106 was reported as accurate.

Dkaypepperscollection 14 · June 12, 2015

Serial Number 2166021 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Elgin ss # 2166021 is an 8s, 11j,HC NOTE: this
grade 94 is inaccurate size shown, these digital
mic out at 34.6mm backside gr 94 = 8s size, NOTE,
this movement is not a 6s takes a rare size 8s
Hunter case, very limited qnty exist.

Anonymous · March 26, 2015

Serial Number 2177911 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · October 15, 2014

Serial Number 2173110 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · June 18, 2014

Serial Number 2170416 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · May 11, 2014

Serial Number 2167146 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · March 15, 2014

Serial Number 2164435 was reported as accurate.

frederic719 123 · February 9, 2014

Serial Number 2169309 was reported as accurate.

Surine13 1 · October 15, 2013

Serial Number 2162701 was reported as accurate.

Elgin Grade 94 Pocket Watch