Elgin Pocket Watch: Serial Number 236617 (Grade 61)

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Access Date: December 26, 2024

From the American Horology Archive:

Elgin National Watch Co.

Grade: 61

H.Z. Culver

Manufacturer:	Elgin
Manufacturer Location:	Elgin, Illinois
Movement Serial Number:	236617
Grade:	61
Variation:	H.Z. Culver
Model:	2
Class:	2
Estimated Production Year:	1873
Run Quantity:	3,000
Grade/Model Run:	2 of 5
Grade/Model Total Production:	3,800
Variant Est. Production:	3,300 (18S-M2-15J-HGL-A-H.Z. CULVER)
Size:	18s
Jewels:	15j
Movement Configuration:	Hunting
Movement Finish:	Gilt
Movement Setting:	Lever
Plate:	Full Plate
Barrel:	Going
Train:	Quick
Regulator:	Plain
Adjusted:	Yes
Adjusted to Temperature:	No
Railroad Grade:	No
U.S. Patents:	77078
Movement Markings:	H.Z. Culver Elgin, Ills. Adjusted Patent Pinion
Case:	Various
Run ID:	196.61G2.18S177.182M3.H195.L3.15J58
Data Research:	1896 Elgin Serial List 1904 Elgin Serial List 1915 Elgin Serial List 1927/1950 Elgin Serial List
Database Version:	v52.528
Advanced Metrics
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index: Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration	11.44
PWDB Relative Rarity Index: Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration	4.36
Share of Production: Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration	0.008%
Registry Population: Scoped for This Run Only	39 (1.30%)
Research Note: #235096: Verified as Keywind/Stemwind Lever-Set [eBay #123999662052].

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Production Metrics Tree: Grade 61

Target Profile: 18S-M2-15J-HGL-A-H.Z. CULVER

Elgin Grade 61 (All Variations): 3,800 ETP
18S: 3,800 100.00% 18s, Grade 61
18S-M2: 3,800 100.00% 18s, Grade 61, Model 2
18S-M2-15J: 3,800 100.00% 18s, Grade 61, Model 2, 15 Jewels
18S-M2-15J-HGL: 3,800 100.00% 18s, Grade 61, Model 2, 15 Jewels, Hunting/Lever/Gilt
18S-M2-15J-HGL-A: 3,800 100.00%
18S-M2-15J-HGL-A-H.Z. CULVER: 3,300 86.84%	Other: 500 Other Variants or Unclassified

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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.

Gun4hire Supporter 48 · November 8, 2024

Serial Number 236603 was reported as accurate.

jcammaro 68 · March 8, 2024

Serial Number 236624 was reported as accurate.

Dave895 Supporter 102 · March 2, 2023

Serial Number 236143 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · May 13, 2021

Serial Number 235913 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · February 11, 2021

Serial Number 235389 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · October 16, 2020

Serial Number 235749 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 7, 2020

Serial Number 235009 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Mine is a Private Label Chas. E Lightner & Co and
is a nickel Movement.

Curator Response: Thanks for the report. If possible, please upload an image of the movement to your collection for further evaluation and documentation.

Rickhufnagel7 Top Contributor Elgin Expert Hampden Expert Supporter 630 · October 22, 2019

Serial Number 235461 was reported as accurate.

Robert1999 5 · April 4, 2019

Serial Number 237883 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: MODEL 1

Curator Response: Thanks for the report. If the movement is lever-set, it would be classified as a Model 2. This run features transitional movements.

bubba70 543 · March 25, 2019

Serial Number 235635 was reported as accurate.

Rickhufnagel7 Top Contributor Elgin Expert Hampden Expert Supporter 630 · March 18, 2019

Serial Number 236110 was reported as accurate.

jcammaro 68 · July 26, 2018

Serial Number 236624 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Key wind arbor on rear with lever for setting. Not
sure off hand if you could call it a "tranny"
transitional. Unique note :two dial feet are
pinned and one foot is a dial screw from factory.