Pocket Watch Database

From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin Grade 8 Pocket Watch

Elgin National Watch Co.

Grade: 8

M.D. Ogden

Manufacturer: Elgin
Manufacturer Location: Elgin, Illinois
Movement Serial Number: 257048
Grade: 8
Variation: M.D. Ogden
Model: 2
Class: 5
Estimated Production Year: 1873
Run Quantity: 1,700
Grade/Model Run: 1 of 5
Grade/Model Total Production: 4,917
Variant Est. Production: 1,917 (18S-M2)
Size: 18s
Jewels: 11j
Movement Configuration: Hunting
Movement Finish: Gilt
Movement Signing Style: Mixed
Movement Inlay Color: None
Movement Setting: Lever
Wind Mechanism:Transitional
Plate: Full Plate
Barrel: Going
Train: Slow
Regulator: Plain
Adjusted: No
Railroad Grade: No
U.S. Patents: 77078
Movement Markings: M.D. Ogden
Elgin.
Patent Pinion
Data Research: 1896 Elgin Serial List
1904 Elgin Serial List
1915 Elgin Serial List
1927/1950 Elgin Serial List
Case: Various
Registry Population: 21 (1.24%)
Database Version: v49.716
Research Note: The Elgin 1896 Material Catalog designates this run as "Ogden, Series 2" while all Grade 8 (Not Ogden) runs published in the 1896 Material Catalog were designated as "Series 3." Series designations were transitioned to model numbers in the 1904 Material Catalog.

Production Metrics Tree: Grade 8

Target Profile: 18S-M2-11J-HGL-U-M.D. OGDEN

Elgin Grade 8 (All Variations): 4,917 ETP
18S: 4,917 100.00%
18s, Grade 8
18S-M2: 1,917 38.99%
18s, Grade 8, Model 2
Other: 3,000
Other Models or Unclassified
18S-M2-11J: 1,917 38.99%
18s, Grade 8, Model 2, 11 Jewels
18S-M2-11J-HGL: 1,917 38.99%
18s, Grade 8, Model 2, 11 Jewels, Hunting/Lever/Gilt
18S-M2-11J-HGL-U: 1,917 38.99%
18S-M2-11J-HGL-U-M.D. OGDEN: 1,917 38.99%

Population Registry for This Run

Image Serial Number Run Position Primary Identification Method Discovery Date
1 257048 #48 Collection September 02, 2017
2 257160 #160 Collection February 15, 2013
3 257237 #237 Marketplace August 21, 2016
4 257343 #343 Marketplace May 26, 2014
5 257427 #427 Marketplace December 11, 2016
6 257454 #454 Collection September 02, 2017
7 257574 #574 Collection March 09, 2017
8 257614 #614 Marketplace January 22, 2021
9 257666 #666 Collection March 31, 2019
10
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257738 #738 Collection November 19, 2019
11 257771 #771 Marketplace November 14, 2019
12 257881 #881 Marketplace April 02, 2021
13 257897 #897 Marketplace November 29, 2021
14 258051 #1051 Marketplace April 22, 2014
15 258140 #1140 Inferred
16 258275 #1275 Collection April 15, 2015
17 258386 #1386 Marketplace July 13, 2015
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258418 #1418 Collection December 01, 2018
19 258572 #1572 Marketplace July 05, 2019
20 258580 #1580 Marketplace November 20, 2020
21 258644 #1644 Marketplace April 12, 2017
Standard Deviation of Known Examples: 493.72 (Expected: 490.89, Δ2.83/0.17%)

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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.


Anonymous · October 16, 2021

Serial Number 258390 was reported as accurate.

Rickhufnagel7 Top Contributor Elgin Expert Hampden Expert Supporter 615 · November 15, 2019

Serial Number 257771 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · September 23, 2019

Serial Number 258146 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 15, 2019

Serial Number 257307 was reported as accurate.

Rickhufnagel7 Top Contributor Elgin Expert Hampden Expert Supporter 615 · November 1, 2018

Serial Number 258418 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 9, 2013

Serial Number 258479 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 7J to 11j

Anonymous · July 9, 2013

Serial Number 257661 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 7J to 11j

Anonymous · February 15, 2013

Serial Number 257160 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 7J to 11j
Elgin Grade 8 Pocket Watch