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Access Date: June 02, 2023
From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin National Watch Co.
Grade: 8
M.D. Ogden
| Manufacturer: | Elgin |  |
| Manufacturer Location: | Elgin, Illinois | |
| Movement Serial Number: | 257048 | |
| Grade: | 8 | |
| Variation: | M.D. Ogden | |
| Model: | 2 | |
| Class: | 5 | |
| Estimated Production Year: | 1873 | |
| Run Quantity: | 1,700 | |
| Grade/Model Run: | 1 of 2 | |
| Grade/Model Total Production: | 1,917 | |
| Size: | 18s | |
| Jewels: | 11j | |
| Movement Configuration: | Hunting | |
| Movement Finish: | Gilt | |
| Movement Signing Style: | Mixed | |
| Movement Inlay Color: | None | |
| Movement Setting: | Lever | |
| Wind Mechanism: | Transitional | |
| Plate: | Full Plate | |
| Barrel: | Going | |
| Train: | Slow | |
| Regulator: | Plain | |
| Adjusted: | No | |
| Railroad Grade: | No | |
| U.S. Patents: | 77078 | |
| Movement Markings: | M.D. Ogden Elgin. Patent Pinion |
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| Data Research: |
1896 Elgin Serial List 1904 Elgin Serial List 1915 Elgin Serial List 1927/1950 Elgin Serial List |
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| Case: | Various | |
| Database Version: | v50.839 | |
| Advanced Metrics | ||
| PWDB Absolute Rarity Index: Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 5.57 | |
| PWDB Relative Rarity Index: Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 2.17 | |
| Share of Production: Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 0.004% | |
| Registry Population: | 21 (1.24%) | |
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Research Note: The Elgin 1896 Material Catalog designates this run as "Ogden, Series 2" while all Grade 8 (Not Ogden) runs published in the 1896 Material Catalog were designated as "Series 3." Series designations were transitioned to model numbers in the 1904 Material Catalog.
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Production Metrics Tree: Grade 8
Target Profile: 18S-M2-11J-HGL-U-M.D. OGDEN
| Elgin Grade 8 (All Variations): 4,917 ETP | |
| 18S: 4,917 100.00% 18s, Grade 8 |
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| 18S-M2: 1,917 38.99% 18s, Grade 8, Model 2 |
Other: 3,000
Other Models or Unclassified |
| 18S-M2-11J: 1,917 38.99% 18s, Grade 8, Model 2, 11 Jewels |
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| 18S-M2-11J-HGL: 1,917 38.99% 18s, Grade 8, Model 2, 11 Jewels, Hunting/Lever/Gilt |
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| 18S-M2-11J-HGL-U: 1,917 38.99% | |
| 18S-M2-11J-HGL-U-M.D. OGDEN: 1,917 38.99% | |
Population Registry for This Run
| Image | Serial Number | Run Position | Primary Identification Method | Discovery Date | |
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| 1 | 257048 | #48 | Collection | September 02, 2017 | |
| 2 | 257160 | #160 | Collection | February 15, 2013 | |
| 3 | 257237 | #237 | Marketplace | August 21, 2016 | |
| 4 | 257343 | #343 | Marketplace | May 26, 2014 | |
| 5 | 257427 | #427 | Marketplace | December 11, 2016 | |
| 6 | 257454 | #454 | Collection | September 02, 2017 | |
| 7 | 257574 | #574 | Collection | March 09, 2017 | |
| 8 | 257614 | #614 | Marketplace | January 22, 2021 | |
| 9 | 257666 | #666 | Collection | March 31, 2019 | |
| 10 |
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257738 | #738 | Collection | November 19, 2019 |
| 11 | 257771 | #771 | Marketplace | November 14, 2019 | |
| 12 | 257881 | #881 | Marketplace | April 02, 2021 | |
| 13 | 257897 | #897 | Marketplace | November 29, 2021 | |
| 14 | 258051 | #1051 | Marketplace | April 22, 2014 | |
| 15 | 258140 | #1140 | Inferred | ||
| 16 | 258275 | #1275 | Collection | April 15, 2015 | |
| 17 | 258386 | #1386 | Marketplace | July 13, 2015 | |
| 18 |
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258418 | #1418 | Collection | December 01, 2018 |
| 19 | 258572 | #1572 | Marketplace | July 05, 2019 | |
| 20 | 258580 | #1580 | Marketplace | November 20, 2020 | |
| 21 | 258644 | #1644 | Marketplace | April 12, 2017 | |
| Standard Deviation of Known Examples: 493.72 (Expected: 490.89, Δ2.83/0.17%) | |||||
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Verification Reports for this Run
The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.
Anonymous · October 16, 2021
Serial Number 258390 was reported as accurate.
Rickhufnagel7 Top Contributor Elgin Expert Hampden Expert Supporter 616 · November 15, 2019
Serial Number 257771 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · September 23, 2019
Serial Number 258146 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · January 15, 2019
Serial Number 257307 was reported as accurate.
Rickhufnagel7 Top Contributor Elgin Expert Hampden Expert Supporter 616 · November 1, 2018
Serial Number 258418 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · July 9, 2013
Serial Number 258479 was reported as accurate.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 7J to 11j
Anonymous · July 9, 2013
Serial Number 257661 was reported as accurate.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 7J to 11j
Anonymous · February 15, 2013
Serial Number 257160 was reported as accurate.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 7J to 11j
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