Elgin Pocket Watch: Serial Number 2770712 (Grade 43)

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Access Date: April 25, 2024

From the American Horology Archive:

Elgin National Watch Co.

Grade: 43

Manufacturer:	Elgin
Manufacturer Location:	Elgin, Illinois
Movement Serial Number:	2770712
Grade:	43
Model:	5
Class:	10
Estimated Production Year:	1888
Run Quantity:	5,000
Grade/Model Run:	4 of 43
Grade/Model Total Production:	72,000
Size:	18s
Jewels:	11j
Movement Configuration:	Openface
Movement Finish:	Half-Nickel
Movement Setting:	Pendant
Plate:	Full Plate
Barrel:	Going
Train:	Quick
Regulator:	Plain
Adjusted:	No
Railroad Grade:	No
U.S. Patents:	77078, 347272, 345619
Data Research:	1896 Elgin Serial List 1904 Elgin Serial List 1915 Elgin Serial List 1927/1950 Elgin Serial List
Case:	Various
Run ID:	957.43G4.18S607.185M23.O27.P39.11J339
Database Version:	v52.245
Advanced Metrics
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index: Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration	216.77
PWDB Relative Rarity Index: Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration	83.71
Share of Production: Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration	0.142%
Registry Population:	40 (0.80%)
$ Estimated Value (12 Month Change):	6.45% Analyzing 285 Sales

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Production Metrics Tree: Grade 43

Target Profile: 18S-M5-11J-OHP-U

Elgin Grade 43 (All Variations): 72,000 ETP

18S: 72,000 100.00%
18s, Grade 43

18S-M5: 72,000 100.00%
18s, Grade 43, Model 5

18S-M5-11J: 72,000 100.00%
18s, Grade 43, Model 5, 11 Jewels

18S-M5-11J-OHP: 72,000 100.00%
18s, Grade 43, Model 5, 11 Jewels, Openface/Pendant/Half-Nickel

18S-M5-11J-OHP-U: 72,000 100.00%

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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.

MoatsJustin1 top-contributor 4691 · December 7, 2023

Serial Number 2774895 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 2, 2023

Serial Number 2773976 was reported as accurate.

VICTORIAN1859 82 · May 5, 2022

Serial Number 2771775 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · February 5, 2022

Serial Number 2774197 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 29, 2022

Serial Number 2771087 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 13, 2022

Serial Number 2772844 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: 15 Jewels is stamped on the movement.

Curator Response: Thanks for the report. Based on the photos, the "15 Jewels" was added post-factory. This was occasionally done to make the watch appear to have more jewels than it actually did. The Grade 43 was fitted with 11 Jewels at the factory, and your movement is consistent with other known Grade 43 movements, aligning with factory serial lists.

Anonymous · September 12, 2021

Serial Number 2771776 was reported as accurate.

Rickhufnagel7 Top Contributor Elgin Expert Hampden Expert Supporter 617 · January 3, 2021

Serial Number 2770024 was reported as accurate.

PHIL1199 Supporter 960 · August 17, 2020

Serial Number 2772044 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · June 29, 2020

Serial Number 2772641 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · May 23, 2020

Serial Number 2770200 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 25, 2020

Serial Number 2771951 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 25, 2020

Serial Number 2771951 was reported as accurate.

Teezys 180 · December 3, 2019

Serial Number 2772217 was reported as accurate.

Beezqueen 45 · November 24, 2019

Serial Number 2770453 was reported as accurate.

Beezqueen 45 · November 22, 2019

Serial Number 2770453 was reported as accurate.

Teezys 180 · November 4, 2019

Serial Number 2772217 was reported as accurate.

Teezys 180 · October 27, 2019

Serial Number 2772217 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · October 10, 2019

Serial Number 2772217 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · October 6, 2019

Serial Number 2772217 was reported as accurate.

tink5249 2 · October 2, 2019

Serial Number 2770519 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 3, 2019

Serial Number 2774054 was reported as accurate.

colaman6mcq Supporter 151 · April 24, 2019

Serial Number 2771895 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 14, 2019

Serial Number 2771553 was reported as accurate.

WLBelkriver33 804 · November 14, 2018

Serial Number 2773394 was reported as accurate.

WLBelkriver33 804 · November 13, 2018

Serial Number 2771394 was reported as accurate.

BOBTICTAC1940 34 · November 6, 2018

Serial Number 2772379 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · October 19, 2018

Serial Number 2773164 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Jewels on listed says 11j. It is actually 15j on
inside of watch movement.

Curator Response: Thanks for the report. If possible, please upload an image of the movement to your collection so we can take a closer look.

Anonymous · September 22, 2018

Serial Number 2771461 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · September 11, 2018

Serial Number 2770314 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · May 8, 2018

Serial Number 2772049 was reported as accurate.

stevekrz 26 · April 18, 2018

Serial Number 2773490 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · April 16, 2018

Serial Number 2771360 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.

shimniok 7 · January 1, 2018

Serial Number 2774524 was reported as accurate.

Ann1379 27 · August 28, 2017

Serial Number 2773685 was reported as accurate.