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From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin Grade 10 Pocket Watch
Elgin Grade 10 Pocket Watch

Elgin National Watch Co.

Grade: 10

Manufacturer: Elgin Question Mark
Manufacturer Location: Elgin, Illinois Question Mark
Movement Serial Number: 3621413 Question Mark
Grade: 10 Question Mark
Model: 3 Question Mark
Class: 5 Question Mark
Estimated Production Year: 1890 Question Mark
Run Quantity: 2,000 Question Mark
Grade/Model Run: 39 of 82 Question Mark
Grade/Model Total Production: 273,000 Question Mark
Size: 18s Question Mark
Jewels: 11j Question Mark
Movement Configuration: Hunting Question Mark
Movement Finish: Gilt Question Mark
Movement Setting: Lever Question Mark
Plate: Full Plate Question Mark
Barrel: Going Question Mark
Train: Quick Question Mark
Regulator: Plain Question Mark
Adjusted: No Question Mark
Railroad Grade: No Question Mark
U.S. Patents: 77078 Question Mark
Case: Various Question Mark
Run ID: 1346.10G39.18S810.183M103.H1119.L610.11J468 Question Mark
Data Research: 1896 Elgin Serial List
1904 Elgin Serial List
1915 Elgin Serial List
1927/1950 Elgin Serial List
Question Mark
Database Version: v52.539 Question Mark
Advanced Metrics
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index:
Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
821.94 Question Mark
PWDB Relative Rarity Index:
Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
317.57 Question Mark
Share of Production:
Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
0.540% Question Mark
Registry Population:
Scoped for This Run Only
7 (0.35%) Question Mark
$ Estimated Value (12 Month Change): -13.43% Analyzing 833 Sales Question Mark

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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.


Anonymous · February 3, 2021

Serial Number 3621489 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: My comment comes from looking up #3621489, a
movement that clearly shows at least 15j. Grade
10 is shown as 11j in both your database and the
Elgin specific one in a separate web site. I see
that all the pictures you show for this Grade 10
also show that number of jewels. The number is
not marked on the plate, it is simply seen by
observation. Each jewel seen in the plate is
really 2, one on top and one on bottom. A watch
with only 7 jewels has no visible jewels in the
plate, it's only visible ones are balance staff
pivot and cap jewel in the balance cock. 11j has
the pallet and escape wheel jewels only, seen by
their position in relation to banking pins on the
plate. Further jewels up to 17 are seen as
jewels for wheels in train, in the plate. Above
17, cap jewels are added to pallet and then escape
wheel, making 19 and then 21. Above 21, is where
you get a jeweled barrel. At least those are my
observations, so you can see this stuff when there
are no markings on the plate. My guess is either
there is a variation in jewel numbers in this
grade, or Elgin's records were in error in this
case.
Curator Response: Absolutely incorrect. The Grade 10 was exclusviely produced as an 11-Jewel movement. Similar to many manufactures offering 11-Jewel movements during this period, the top plate is jeweled while the bottom is not. An inspection under the dial will reveal the lower pivots of the train are metal bushings. Learn about jeweling here: https://pocketwatchdatabase.com/reference/jewels There is also an image of the Grade 10 dial plate on this page that clearly exhibits the lack of jeweling on the lower pivots: https://pocketwatchdatabase.com/guide/company/elgin/grade/10

Anonymous · April 22, 2016

Serial Number 3622038 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 29, 2015

Serial Number 3621489 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · September 6, 2015

Serial Number 3621246 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · September 5, 2015

Serial Number 3621246 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 15, 2015

Serial Number 3621809 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · June 2, 2013

Serial Number 3622958 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 23, 2013

Serial Number 3621236 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 28, 2012

Serial Number 3621809 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 8, 2012

Serial Number 3622228 was reported as accurate.

Elgin Grade 10 Pocket Watch
Elgin Grade 10 Pocket Watch