Pocket Watch Database


From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin Grade 81 Pocket Watch

Elgin National Watch Co.

Grade: 81

"G.M. Wheeler" or "Elgin Nat'l. Watch Co."

Manufacturer: Elgin Question Mark
Manufacturer Location: Elgin, Illinois Question Mark
Movement Serial Number: 977602 Question Mark
Grade: 81 Question Mark
Variation: Mixed Question Mark
Model: 1 Question Mark
Class: 4 Question Mark
Estimated Production Year: 1882 Question Mark
Run Quantity: 5,000 Question Mark
Grade/Model Run: 6 of 13 Question Mark
Grade/Model Total Production: 53,000 Question Mark
Variant Est. Production: 25,000 (18S-M1-13J-HGK-U-MIXED) Question Mark
Size: 18s Question Mark
Jewels: 13j Question Mark
Movement Configuration: Adaptable Question Mark
Movement Finish: Gilt Question Mark
Movement Setting: Key Question Mark
Plate: Full Plate Question Mark
Barrel: Going Question Mark
Train: Quick Question Mark
Adjusted: No Question Mark
Railroad Grade: No Question Mark
U.S. Patents: 77078 Question Mark
Case: Various Question Mark
Run ID: 652.81G6.18S469.181M379.H628.K480.13J46 Question Mark
Data Research: 1896 Elgin Serial List
1904 Elgin Serial List
1915 Elgin Serial List
1927/1950 Elgin Serial List
Question Mark
Database Version: v52.449 Question Mark
Advanced Metrics
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index:
Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
159.57 Question Mark
PWDB Relative Rarity Index:
Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
61.61 Question Mark
Share of Production:
Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
0.105% Question Mark
Registry Population:
Scoped for This Run Only
55 (1.10%) Question Mark
$ Estimated Value (12 Month Change): 3.08% Analyzing 242 Sales Question Mark
Research Note: Mixed run of named (G.M. Wheeler) and unnamed ("Elgin Nat'l. Watch Co.") movements. [#977460 Verified as G.M. Wheeler]

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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.


Anonymous · July 24, 2024

Serial Number 978227 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · June 12, 2024

Serial Number 975105 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 18, 2022

Serial Number 977994 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · March 6, 2022

Serial Number 979797 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · May 2, 2021

Serial Number 975797 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · April 10, 2021

Serial Number 976534 was reported as accurate.

Rickhufnagel7 Top Contributor Elgin Expert Hampden Expert Supporter 630 · September 8, 2019

Serial Number 977602 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 10, 2019

Serial Number 979174 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 9, 2019

Serial Number 979174 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · June 30, 2019

Serial Number 979174 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 4, 2019

Serial Number 975781 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 25, 2018

Serial Number 978371 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 19, 2017

Serial Number 976908 was reported as accurate.

TimeAntiquarian Founder Research Expert Historian Top Contributor Supporter 171 · August 14, 2017

Serial Number 977460 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 21, 2016

Serial Number 976534 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: NOT G.M. Wheeler
Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 13j or 15j to 13j

Anonymous · October 20, 2016

Serial Number 975476 was reported as accurate.

Urbanops 51 · September 26, 2016

Serial Number 976040 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · February 2, 2016

Serial Number 978847 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · March 30, 2015

Serial Number 978154 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · October 8, 2014

Serial Number 975166 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 18, 2014

Serial Number 978001 was reported as accurate.

chevykingpower 215 · March 12, 2014

Serial Number 978914 was reported as accurate.

DoctorTom 4 · February 17, 2014

Serial Number 979262 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 12, 2014

Serial Number 976595 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.

hoopibabs 42 · October 26, 2013

Serial Number 977744 was reported as accurate.

davidwood 1 · September 24, 2013

Serial Number 978120 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · September 24, 2013

Serial Number 978120 was reported as accurate.

rdbraun 12 · September 7, 2013

Serial Number 975727 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · September 2, 2013

Serial Number 975727 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · June 1, 2013

Serial Number 975394 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.

Anonymous · May 15, 2013

Serial Number 978342 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · February 4, 2013

Serial Number 977276 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · October 16, 2012

Serial Number 979883 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · October 14, 2012

Serial Number 976572 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 31, 2012

Serial Number 977989 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 31, 2012

Serial Number 977089 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 12, 2012

Serial Number 979667 was reported as accurate.

Elgin Grade 81 Pocket Watch