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From the American Horology Archive:
Waltham Grade Vanguard Pocket Watch

American Waltham Watch Co.

Grade: Vanguard

Mixed Run: 21-Jewel and 23-Jewel Movements, Openface and Hunting Configurations

Manufacturer: Waltham Question Mark
Manufacturer Location: Waltham, Massachusetts Question Mark
Movement Serial Number: 12500940 Question Mark
Grade: Vanguard Question Mark
Model: 1892 Question Mark
Estimated Production Year: 1903 Question Mark
Run Quantity: 2,500 Question Mark
Grade/Model Run: 105 of 191 Question Mark
Grade/Model Total Production: 101,864 Question Mark
Size: 18s Question Mark
Jewels: 21j or 23j    Mixed Run Question Mark
Movement Configuration: Hunting Question Mark
Movement Finish: Nickel Question Mark
Movement Setting: Lever Question Mark
Plate: Full Plate Question Mark
Regulator: Church 1892 Question Mark
Hairspring: Breguet Question Mark
Adjusted: Yes Question Mark
Adjusted to Position: Yes Question Mark
Adjusted # of Positions: 5 Question Mark
Railroad Grade: Yes Question Mark
Case: Various Question Mark
Run ID: 18197.G132.18S10957.181892M303.H5713.L4600.2123J3 Question Mark
Data Research: 1954 Waltham "Gray Book" List
NAWCC Waltham Serial Digest
Question Mark
Database Version: v52.528 Question Mark
Advanced Metrics
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index:
Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
60.85 Question Mark
PWDB Relative Rarity Index:
Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
55.37 Question Mark
Share of Production:
Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
0.060% Question Mark
Registry Population:
Scoped for This Run Only
35 (1.40%) Question Mark
$ Estimated Value (12 Month Change): -8.47% Analyzing 949 Sales Question Mark
Research Note: Waltham Serial Lists designate run as "21-23" Jewels and "Htg" (Hunting) configuration. However, #12500640 has been verified as an openface 23-Jewel movement. #12500688: Verified as Hunting. #12500825: Reported as Openface. #12500340: Reported as Openface 23j.

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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.


Anonymous · July 11, 2024

Serial Number 12501445 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Open face not hunter. Star style regulator
upgraded with the later style Ohlson's regulator.

Anonymous · October 29, 2023

Serial Number 12502378 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Open face not hunting
Curator Response: Thanks for the confirmation!

TerryfromCanada Supporter 486 · August 28, 2023

Serial Number 12501448 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · May 2, 2023

Serial Number 12502378 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: 12502378 open face
Curator Response: Thanks for the confirmation!

Anonymous · March 3, 2023

Serial Number 12502417 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 2, 2022

Serial Number 12500618 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · April 20, 2022

Serial Number 12500340 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: This is an open face 23j Vanguard movement
Curator Response: Thanks for the report. This information has been noted in the research notes for this run.

Anonymous · October 26, 2021

Serial Number 12500125 was reported as accurate.

ldocton 2 · September 1, 2020

Serial Number 12500940 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: 12500940 Is 23 Jewel - Open Face - Lever Set

Anonymous · May 14, 2020

Serial Number 12500199 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · May 3, 2020

Serial Number 12500403 was reported as accurate.

tanker684 1 · February 13, 2020

Serial Number 12500978 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Open faced not Hunting. 23 Jewels.

Anonymous · December 24, 2019

Serial Number 12502026 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Open Face Movement with Double Sunk Dial

aconner 63 · May 13, 2019

Serial Number 12501123 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Mixed run: The movement is marked 21 Jewels which
is a correct count. The movement is hunting as
stated and all else is correct.

Anonymous · March 16, 2019

Serial Number 12500825 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Not hunting movement

johnlamarre 1 · October 18, 2018

Serial Number 12501955 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 26, 2018

Serial Number 12500010 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · June 9, 2018

Serial Number 12500640 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: 12500640 is a 23-jewel movement, open face
configuration, not 21j hunting. Otherwise correct.
The patent regulator is a Church star wheel.
Curator Response: Thanks for the report. If possible, please upload an image of the movement to your collection so we can take a closer look.

USNRet 140 · January 9, 2018

Serial Number 12500070 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · November 18, 2017

Serial Number 12501205 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · September 25, 2017

Serial Number 12500403 was reported as accurate.

angeldrako 17 · August 28, 2017

Serial Number 12500403 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · August 28, 2017

Serial Number 12500403 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · August 19, 2017

Serial Number 12502278 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Mostly accurate, the first date under the back
plate where I believe they etch in the date of a
repair? is 1897, followed by 1952, and 1968.
Also the site lists this as 21j, but the watch
itself is etched as 23j.

Anonymous · March 15, 2017

Serial Number 12502341 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · February 25, 2017

Serial Number 12500851 was reported as accurate.

dfchong 837 · November 28, 2016

Serial Number 12500116 was reported as accurate.

timerestored 278 · November 21, 2016

Serial Number 12500116 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: 23 Jewels

Anonymous · September 17, 2016

Serial Number 12501006 was reported as accurate.

Just4orfun 117 · July 4, 2016

Serial Number 12501003 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: All vangaurd are railroad grade.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Configuration changed from Openface to Hunting

Atoro13 1 · April 3, 2016

Serial Number 12502204 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Configuration changed from Openface to Hunting

Anonymous · April 3, 2016

Serial Number 12502204 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Configuration changed from Openface to Hunting

Anonymous · March 8, 2016

Serial Number 12500651 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Marked 23 J adusted
Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Configuration changed from Openface to Hunting

Anonymous · January 27, 2016

Serial Number 12501007 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: 21 jewels mounted in official Waltham table
display casing.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Configuration changed from Openface to Hunting

Anonymous · January 27, 2016

Serial Number 12501007 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Configuration changed from Openface to Hunting

pedro765 41 · April 12, 2015

Serial Number 12500910 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Movement Finish: Nickel
# of Positions 5
Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Configuration changed from Openface to Hunting

pedro765 41 · December 7, 2014

Serial Number 12500910 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Open Face

Anonymous · December 2, 2014

Serial Number 12500967 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Just purchased on Ebay. This is a not a hunting
case movement. It is an open face movement, in a
salemans sample case. Case doesn't appear to
original to watch.

Anonymous · April 24, 2014

Serial Number 12500146 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 26, 2014

Serial Number 12500137 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 4, 2013

Serial Number 12501834 was reported as accurate.

gahugh 4 · August 1, 2013

Serial Number 12500731 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · April 20, 2013

Serial Number 12500909 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · February 15, 2013

Serial Number 12502490 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: 21 Jewels, Diamond End Stone, Open Face Movement
Waltham Grade Vanguard Pocket Watch