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Access Date: November 29, 2024
From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin National Watch Co.
Grade: 334
Official RR Standard
| Manufacturer: | Elgin |  |
| Manufacturer Location: | Elgin, Illinois | |
| Movement Serial Number: | 11858560 | |
| Grade: | 334 | |
| Model: | 11 | |
| Class: | 121 | |
| Estimated Production Year: | 1905 | |
| Run Quantity: | 1,000 | |
| Grade/Model Run: | 1 of 2 | |
| Grade/Model Total Production: | 1,500 | |
| Grade/Model Unrealized Production: | 500 | |
| Size: | 18s | |
| Jewels: | 21j | |
| Jewel Setting: | Gold Settings (Screw-Set) | |
| Movement Configuration: | Openface | |
| Movement Finish: | Nickel | |
| Movement Inlay Color: | Gilt | |
| Movement Setting: | Lever | |
| Plate: | Full Plate | |
| Double Roller: | Yes | |
| Barrel: | Going | |
| Train: | Quick | |
| Regulator: | Ball | |
| Pallet Jewel Material: | Sapphire | |
| Adjusted: | Yes | |
| Adjusted to Temperature: | No | |
| Adjustment Tolerance: | [30] DU/PU Reg. +/- 30 s/24hrs. | |
| Railroad Grade: | Yes | |
| U.S. Patents: | 565955, D26267, 77078, 347272 | |
| Movement Markings: | Ball Watch Co. Cleveland, O. Official RR Standard 333 Double Roller 21 Jewels Sapphire Pallets Adjusted Trade Mark Patented No. 17.96. Pat. Aug. 18.96. |
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| Case: | Various | |
| Run ID: | 5144.334G1.18S2418.1811M5.O1621.L1676.21J135 | |
| Data Research: |
1909 Elgin Serial List 1915 Elgin Serial List 1927/1950 Elgin Serial List |
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| Database Version: | v52.470 | |
| Advanced Metrics | ||
| PWDB Absolute Rarity Index: Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 4.51 | |
| PWDB Relative Rarity Index: Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 1.69 | |
| Share of Production: Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 0.003% | |
| Registry Population: Scoped for This Run Only | 19 (1.90%) | |
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Research Note: Recorded in original serial lists as Grade "Special." Marked "333" on Movement
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Production Metrics Tree: Grade 334
Target Profile: 18S-M11-21J-ONL-A
| Elgin Grade 334 (All Variations): 1,500 ETP |
| 18S: 1,500 100.00% 18s, Grade 334 |
| 18S-M11: 1,500 100.00% 18s, Grade 334, Model 11 |
| 18S-M11-21J: 1,500 100.00% 18s, Grade 334, Model 11, 21 Jewels |
| 18S-M11-21J-ONL: 1,500 100.00% 18s, Grade 334, Model 11, 21 Jewels, Openface/Lever/Nickel |
| 18S-M11-21J-ONL-A: 1,500 100.00% |
| NOTE: 2,000 Units Originally Reserved with Est. 500 Never Manufactured |
Population Registry for This Run
| Image | Serial Number | Run Position | Primary Identification Method | Discovery Date | |
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There are 19 watches in the population registry for this run with 4 images.
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Verification Reports for this Run
The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.
Anonymous · October 11, 2024
Serial Number 11858379 was reported as inaccurate.
as such. It has the sapphire pallets, is 21J,
cjbrem Supporter 923 · August 25, 2024
Serial Number 11858626 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · April 4, 2024
Serial Number 11858823 was reported as accurate.
garydurie Supporter 29 · September 7, 2023
Serial Number 11858897 was reported as inaccurate.
Anonymous · June 16, 2023
Serial Number 11858012 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · May 11, 2023
Serial Number 11858012 was reported as inaccurate.
Anonymous · November 14, 2022
Serial Number 11858715 was reported as accurate.
DaveReid 52 · October 29, 2022
Serial Number 11858197 was reported as accurate.
AbellWatch Supporter 9 · August 12, 2022
Serial Number 11858384 was reported as accurate.
Blicquer Supporter 90 · July 10, 2022
Serial Number 11858348 was reported as accurate.
hiyumash423 Supporter 3 · March 3, 2022
Serial Number 11858140 was reported as inaccurate.
movement is marked 333 grade. Serial # 11858140
Ball
DaveReid 52 · August 7, 2021
Serial Number 11858197 was reported as accurate.
DaveReid 52 · July 11, 2021
Serial Number 11858197 was reported as accurate.
DaveReid 52 · July 10, 2021
Serial Number 11858197 was reported as accurate.
steve288 264 · June 7, 2021
Serial Number 11858197 was reported as accurate.
keywind 13 · April 14, 2021
Serial Number 11858470 was reported as accurate.
chuck1500 112 · January 19, 2021
Serial Number 11858912 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · August 27, 2020
Serial Number 11858867 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · June 27, 2020
Serial Number 11858313 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · August 15, 2019
Serial Number 11858939 was reported as accurate.
barberr1 67 · May 11, 2018
Serial Number 11858302 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · March 5, 2018
Serial Number 11858827 was reported as inaccurate.
Anonymous · January 24, 2018
Serial Number 11858836 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · January 24, 2018
Serial Number 11858836 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · April 19, 2017
Serial Number 11858114 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · August 10, 2016
Serial Number 11858508 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · January 25, 2016
Serial Number 11858092 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · January 25, 2016
Serial Number 11858092 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · December 1, 2015
Serial Number 11858239 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · December 1, 2015
Serial Number 11858239 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · September 12, 2014
Serial Number 11858760 was reported as inaccurate.
Anonymous · September 3, 2014
Serial Number 11858760 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · September 2, 2014
Serial Number 11858760 was reported as inaccurate.
hank123 8 · April 24, 2014
Serial Number 11858251 was reported as inaccurate.
Anonymous · January 2, 2014
Serial Number 11858407 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · October 6, 2013
Serial Number 11858249 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · September 9, 2013
Serial Number 11858931 was reported as inaccurate.
(made by Elgin)
mudhead 13 · August 6, 2013
Serial Number 11858560 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · June 17, 2013
Serial Number 11858407 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · June 17, 2013
Serial Number 11858407 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · June 4, 2013
Serial Number 11858109 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · February 20, 2013
Serial Number 11858837 was reported as inaccurate.
Grade 333
Ball
Official Railroad Standard
