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Access Date: December 01, 2024
From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin National Watch Co.
Grade: 278
Overland
| Manufacturer: | Elgin |  |
| Manufacturer Location: | Elgin, Illinois | |
| Movement Serial Number: | 10123166 | |
| Grade: | 278 | |
| Variation: | Overland | |
| Model: | 3 | |
| Class: | 4 | |
| Estimated Production Year: | 1904 | |
| Run Quantity: | 1,000 | |
| Grade/Model Run: | 1 of 2 | |
| Grade/Model Total Production: | 1,250 | |
| Grade/Model Unrealized Production: | 750 | |
| Size: | 18s | |
| Jewels: | 17j | |
| Movement Configuration: | Hunting | |
| Movement Finish: | Nickel | |
| Movement Signing Style: | Old English | |
| Movement Inlay Color: | Black | |
| Movement Setting: | Lever | |
| Plate: | Full Plate | |
| Barrel: | Going | |
| Train: | Quick | |
| Regulator: | Moseley | |
| Adjusted: | Yes | |
| Railroad Grade: | Yes | |
| U.S. Patents: | 77078 | |
| Movement Markings: | Elgin Natl. Watch Co. Elgin, Ill. U.S.A. Overland. 17 Jewels Adjusted. Safety Pinion. |
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| Case: | Various | |
| Run ID: | 4150.278G1.18S2082.183M327.H2866.L1489.17J385 | |
| Data Research: |
1904 Elgin Serial List 1915 Elgin Serial List 1927/1950 Elgin Serial List |
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| Database Version: | v52.476 | |
| Advanced Metrics | ||
| PWDB Absolute Rarity Index: Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 3.76 | |
| PWDB Relative Rarity Index: Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 1.40 | |
| Share of Production: Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 0.002% | |
| Registry Population: Scoped for This Run Only | 13 (1.30%) | |
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Research Note: Observations and statistical analysis indicate that only the first ~250 of the second run of Grade 278 were actually manufactured.
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Production Metrics Tree: Grade 278
Target Profile: 18S-M3-17J-HNL-A-OVERLAND
| Elgin Grade 278 (All Variations): 1,250 ETP |
| 18S: 1,250 100.00% 18s, Grade 278 |
| 18S-M3: 1,250 100.00% 18s, Grade 278, Model 3 |
| 18S-M3-17J: 1,250 100.00% 18s, Grade 278, Model 3, 17 Jewels |
| 18S-M3-17J-HNL: 1,250 100.00% 18s, Grade 278, Model 3, 17 Jewels, Hunting/Lever/Nickel |
| 18S-M3-17J-HNL-A: 1,250 100.00% |
| 18S-M3-17J-HNL-A-OVERLAND: 1,250 100.00% |
| NOTE: 2,000 Units Originally Reserved with Est. 750 Never Manufactured |
Population Registry for This Run
| Image | Serial Number | Run Position | Primary Identification Method | Discovery Date | |
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There are 13 watches in the population registry for this run with 2 images.
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Verification Reports for this Run
The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.
Anonymous · March 7, 2022
Serial Number 10123598 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · December 14, 2021
Serial Number 10123534 was reported as accurate.
mlat2012 Supporter 55 · January 1, 2019
Serial Number 10123166 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · December 21, 2018
Serial Number 10123166 was reported as accurate.
Rickhufnagel7 Top Contributor Elgin Expert Hampden Expert Supporter 630 · December 2, 2018
Serial Number 10123401 was reported as accurate.
pappybob 46 · August 20, 2018
Serial Number 10123990 was reported as accurate.
rmwatchandclock Supporter 371 · May 21, 2018
Serial Number 10123287 was reported as accurate.
jhahl2 1 · January 23, 2018
Serial Number 10123606 was reported as accurate.
opiejay888 27 · October 25, 2016
Serial Number 10123939 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · January 9, 2016
Serial Number 10123768 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · October 21, 2014
Serial Number 10123545 was reported as accurate.
jerrydk7 227 · March 13, 2014
Serial Number 10123939 was reported as accurate.
jerrydk7 227 · January 10, 2014
Serial Number 10123704 was reported as accurate.
Wrstratton 134 · December 14, 2013
Serial Number 10123704 was reported as inaccurate.
Anonymous · December 10, 2013
Serial Number 10123033 was reported as accurate.
Wrstratton 134 · November 25, 2013
Serial Number 10123704 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · May 18, 2013
Serial Number 10123108 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · February 16, 2013
Serial Number 10123575 was reported as inaccurate.
Anonymous · February 16, 2013
Serial Number 10123575 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · December 24, 2012
Serial Number 10123762 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · July 8, 2012
Serial Number 10123573 was reported as inaccurate.
Railroad Grade - No, it is a Hunter
Anonymous · June 17, 2012
Serial Number 10123573 was reported as inaccurate.
doesn't make it railroad grade because it is a
Hunter style movement
Anonymous · May 1, 2012
Serial Number 10123899 was reported as inaccurate.
the balance cock and is also marked "Overland"
Anonymous · April 5, 2012
Serial Number 10123206 was reported as inaccurate.
not adjusted
