Elgin Pocket Watch: Serial Number 11505044 (Grade 239)

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Access Date: November 25, 2024

From the American Horology Archive:

Elgin National Watch Co.

Grade: 239

Veritas or "No. 349"

Manufacturer:	Elgin
Manufacturer Location:	Elgin, Illinois
Movement Serial Number:	11505044
Grade:	239
Variation:	Mixed
Model:	8
Generation:	First
Class:	90
Estimated Production Year:	1905
Run Quantity:	1,000
Grade/Model Run:	13 of 17
Grade/Model Total Production:	18,800
Variant Est. Production:	2,000 (18S-M8-21J-ONL-A5PTI-MIXED)
Grade/Model Unrealized Production:	1,200
Size:	18s
Jewels:	21j
Jewel Material:	Ruby
Jewel Setting:	Raised Gold Settings (Screw-Set)
Movement Configuration:	Openface
Movement Finish:	Nickel
Movement Signing Style:	Mixed
Movement Inlay Color:	Black
Movement Setting:	Lever
Plate:	3/4 Plate
Double Roller:	Yes
Barrel:	Safety
Balance Jewel Material:	Diamond
Train:	Quick
Train Material:	Gold
Center Wheel Material:	Gold
Regulator:	Traveling Nut (spring)
Hairspring:	Breguet
Escapement Type:	Straight-line
Pallet Jewel Material:	Sapphire
Standard Dial Type:	Double-Sunk
Adjusted:	Yes
Adjusted to Position:	Yes
Adjusted # of Positions:	5
Adjusted to Temperature:	Yes
Adjusted to Isochronism:	Yes
Railroad Grade:	Yes
Railroad Grade Classification:	Class A
Wind Indicator:	No
U.S. Patents:	596407, 77078, 596408
Movement Markings:	Veritas [or "No. 349"] Elgin, Ill. U.S.A. 21 Jewels Adjusted Safety Barrel
Case:	Various
Run ID:	4909.239G13.18S2343.188M49.O1523.L1632.21J126
Data Research:	1904 Elgin Serial List 1915 Elgin Serial List 1927/1950 Elgin Serial List
Database Version:	v52.462
Advanced Metrics
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index: Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration	56.60
PWDB Relative Rarity Index: Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration	21.82
Share of Production: Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration	0.037%
Registry Population: Scoped for This Run Only	21 (2.10%)
$ Estimated Value (12 Month Change):	-3.00% Analyzing 219 Sales
Research Note: The last ~100 movements from this run are marked "No. 349" instead of "Veritas."

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Production Metrics Tree: Grade 239

Target Profile: 18S-M8-21J-ONL-A5PTI-MIXED

Elgin Grade 239 (All Variations): 18,800 ETP
18S: 18,800 100.00% 18s, Grade 239
18S-M8: 18,800 100.00% 18s, Grade 239, Model 8
18S-M8-21J: 18,800 100.00% 18s, Grade 239, Model 8, 21 Jewels
18S-M8-21J-ONL: 18,800 100.00% 18s, Grade 239, Model 8, 21 Jewels, Openface/Lever/Nickel
18S-M8-21J-ONL-A5PTI: 18,800 100.00%
18S-M8-21J-ONL-A5PTI-MIXED: 2,000 10.64%	Other: 16,800 Other Variants or Unclassified
NOTE: 20,000 Units Originally Reserved with Est. 1,200 Never Manufactured

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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.

nicnic Supporter 405 · August 21, 2023

Serial Number 11505771 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · August 13, 2021

Serial Number 11505632 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 18, 2021

Serial Number 11505979 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: All accurate except this one is originally marked
"No. 349" where the "Veritas" would otherwise be.
Mixed run? Stray? cheers duffy l.

Curator Response: Thanks for the report. The database has been updated accordingly.

Anonymous · November 22, 2020

Serial Number 11505436 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · November 8, 2020

Serial Number 11505868 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 2, 2019

Serial Number 11505786 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · May 12, 2018

Serial Number 11505039 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 25, 2017

Serial Number 11505094 was reported as accurate.

dfchong 837 · December 16, 2016

Serial Number 11505200 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · November 26, 2014

Serial Number 11505688 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · August 22, 2014

Serial Number 11505503 was reported as accurate.