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From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin Grade 81 Pocket Watch

Elgin National Watch Co.

Grade: 81

Mixed Run: "Elgin Nat'l. Watch Co." and "G.M. Wheeler" Movements

Manufacturer: Elgin Question Mark
Manufacturer Location: Elgin, Illinois Question Mark
Movement Serial Number: 1209583 Question Mark
Grade: 81 Question Mark
Variation: Mixed Question Mark
Model: 1 Question Mark
Class: 4 Question Mark
Estimated Production Year: 1883 Question Mark
Run Quantity: 5,000 Question Mark
Grade/Model Run: 8 of 13 Question Mark
Grade/Model Total Production: 53,000 Question Mark
Variant Est. Production: 25,000 (18S-M1-13J-HGK-U-MIXED) Question Mark
Size: 18s Question Mark
Jewels: 13j Question Mark
Movement Configuration: Adaptable Question Mark
Movement Finish: Gilt Question Mark
Movement Setting: Key Question Mark
Plate: Full Plate Question Mark
Barrel: Going Question Mark
Train: Quick Question Mark
Adjusted: No Question Mark
Railroad Grade: No Question Mark
U.S. Patents: 77078 Question Mark
Case: Various Question Mark
Run ID: 701.81G8.18S486.181M388.H667.K492.13J54 Question Mark
Data Research: 1896 Elgin Serial List
1904 Elgin Serial List
1915 Elgin Serial List
1927/1950 Elgin Serial List
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Database Version: v52.457 Question Mark
Advanced Metrics
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index:
Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
159.57 Question Mark
PWDB Relative Rarity Index:
Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
61.61 Question Mark
Share of Production:
Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
0.105% Question Mark
Registry Population:
Scoped for This Run Only
37 (0.74%) Question Mark
$ Estimated Value (12 Month Change): 3.08% Analyzing 242 Sales Question Mark

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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.


23Greenwich Supporter 249 · September 11, 2022

Serial Number 1206991 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · February 11, 2022

Serial Number 1208778 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 17, 2022

Serial Number 1206107 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 4, 2021

Serial Number 1206312 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · September 13, 2020

Serial Number 1205913 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · June 3, 2020

Serial Number 1209563 was reported as accurate.

bubba70 543 · December 8, 2019

Serial Number 1208731 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · September 5, 2019

Serial Number 1205569 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 21, 2019

Serial Number 1207590 was reported as accurate.

bubba70 543 · April 19, 2019

Serial Number 1208042 was reported as accurate.

bubba70 543 · April 1, 2019

Serial Number 1208042 was reported as accurate.

bubba70 543 · February 19, 2019

Serial Number 1208042 was reported as accurate.

LostDutchman Supporter 52 · December 6, 2018

Serial Number 1208990 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · November 9, 2018

Serial Number 1206826 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · October 17, 2018

Serial Number 1208941 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · September 28, 2018

Serial Number 1205601 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 6, 2018

Serial Number 1209869 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · November 6, 2017

Serial Number 1205569 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 23, 2017

Serial Number 1207243 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 15, 2017

Serial Number 1207651 was reported as accurate.

Jeneen 2 · March 11, 2017

Serial Number 1209934 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 13j or 15j to 13j

Anonymous · March 11, 2017

Serial Number 1209934 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 13j or 15j to 13j

rpierce25 30 · February 23, 2017

Serial Number 1207249 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 13j or 15j to 13j

Anonymous · November 25, 2016

Serial Number 1205580 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.

Anonymous · April 10, 2016

Serial Number 1205199 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · April 9, 2016

Serial Number 1205199 was reported as accurate.

dscottgoodrick 142 · March 13, 2016

Serial Number 1209883 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 12, 2015

Serial Number 1205569 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · February 5, 2015

Serial Number 1207131 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · September 25, 2014

Serial Number 1205106 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.

Anonymous · March 4, 2014

Serial Number 1205555 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · March 4, 2014

Serial Number 1205555 was reported as accurate.

fantastika 1 · January 7, 2014

Serial Number 1209806 was reported as accurate.

Packard51 8 · July 6, 2013

Serial Number 1205974 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · June 4, 2013

Serial Number 1209341 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 6, 2012

Serial Number 1205934 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Not marked G.M. Wheeler

Anonymous · October 31, 2012

Serial Number 1209900 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · April 16, 2012

Serial Number 1206255 was reported as accurate.

Elgin Grade 81 Pocket Watch