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Access Date: January 16, 2025
From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin National Watch Co.
Grade: 352
G.M. Wheeler or Elgin Nat'l Watch Co.
| Manufacturer: | Elgin |  |
| Manufacturer Location: | Elgin, Illinois | |
| Movement Serial Number: | 13042351 | |
| Grade: | 352 | |
| Variation: | Mixed | |
| Model: | 4 | |
| Class: | 123 | |
| Estimated Production Year: | 1908 | |
| Run Quantity: | 1,000 | |
| Grade/Model Run: | 2 of 3 | |
| Grade/Model Total Production: | 3,000 | |
| Variant Est. Production: | 1,000 (18S-M4-17J-HNL-A-MIXED) | |
| Size: | 18s | |
| Jewels: | 17j | |
| Jewel Setting: | Screw-Set | |
| Movement Configuration: | Hunting | |
| Movement Finish: | Nickel | |
| Movement Signing Style: | Formal Script | |
| Movement Inlay Color: | Black | |
| Movement Setting: | Lever | |
| Plate: | Full Plate | |
| Barrel: | Going | |
| Train: | Quick | |
| Regulator: | Moseley | |
| Adjusted: | Yes | |
| Railroad Grade: | No | |
| U.S. Patents: | 77078 | |
| Movement Markings: | G.M. Wheeler [or "Elgin Nat'l Watch Co. U.S.A.] Elgin, Ill. U.S.A. 17 Jewels Adjusted Safety Pinion. |
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| Case: | Various | |
| Run ID: | 5849.352G2.18S2599.184M417.H3850.L1774.17J679 | |
| Data Research: |
1909 Elgin Serial List 1915 Elgin Serial List 1927/1950 Elgin Serial List |
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| Database Version: | v52.560 | |
| Advanced Metrics | ||
| PWDB Absolute Rarity Index: Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 9.03 | |
| PWDB Relative Rarity Index: Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 3.43 | |
| Share of Production: Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 0.006% | |
| Registry Population: Scoped for This Run Only | 5 (0.50%) | |
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Research Note: #13042351: Verified as marked "Elgin Nat'l Watch Co. U.S.A." on barrel bridge.
#13042512: Sold as a "G.M. Wheeler" watch, no images. #13042820: Sold as a "G.M. Wheeler" watch, no images. #13042917: Sold as a "G.M. Wheeler" watch, no images. #13042975: Verified as marked "G.M. Wheeler - Elgin, Ill. U.S.A." on barrel bridge. Assuming there was a production split, this suggests the first ~500 or so from this run may have been finished as "Elgin Nat'l Watch Co." while the remaining movements were marked "G.M. Wheeler." |
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Production Metrics Tree: Grade 352
Target Profile: 18S-M4-17J-HNL-A-MIXED
| Elgin Grade 352 (All Variations): 3,000 ETP | |
| 18S: 3,000 100.00% 18s, Grade 352 |
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| 18S-M4: 3,000 100.00% 18s, Grade 352, Model 4 |
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| 18S-M4-17J: 3,000 100.00% 18s, Grade 352, Model 4, 17 Jewels |
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| 18S-M4-17J-HNL: 3,000 100.00% 18s, Grade 352, Model 4, 17 Jewels, Hunting/Lever/Nickel |
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| 18S-M4-17J-HNL-A: 3,000 100.00% | |
| 18S-M4-17J-HNL-A-MIXED: 1,000 33.33% | Other: 2,000
Other Variants or Unclassified |
Population Registry for This Run
| Image | Serial Number | Run Position | Primary Identification Method | Discovery Date | |
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There are 5 watches in the population registry for this run with 2 images.
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Verification Reports for this Run
The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.
CG12960 26 · August 28, 2024
Serial Number 13042351 was reported as inaccurate.
Note: This one is not labeled as a GMW or Overland only
ENWC and is a private label W.F. Hackett Rochelle
ILL.
ENWC and is a private label W.F. Hackett Rochelle
ILL.
Anonymous · April 1, 2023
Serial Number 13042891 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · June 26, 2019
Serial Number 13042189 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · May 13, 2019
Serial Number 13042189 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · January 11, 2015
Serial Number 13042102 was reported as inaccurate.
No further details were submitted with the report.
Anonymous · November 1, 2014
Serial Number 13042512 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · September 8, 2013
Serial Number 13042917 was reported as inaccurate.
Note: My movement says adjusted
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
Anonymous · October 31, 2012
Serial Number 13042781 was reported as accurate.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
