Elgin Pocket Watch: Serial Number 13459173 (Grade 317)

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Access Date: January 02, 2025

From the American Horology Archive:

Elgin National Watch Co.

Grade: 317

Private Label(s) in Run:

Rovelstad Bros - Elgin, Ill. [#13459173]

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Manufacturer:	Elgin
Manufacturer Location:	Elgin, Illinois
Movement Serial Number:	13459173
Grade:	317
Model:	5
Class:	106
Estimated Production Year:	1908
Run Quantity:	3,000
Grade/Model Run:	22 of 188
Grade/Model Total Production:	261,500
Size:	18s
Jewels:	15j
Jewel Setting:	Screw-Set
Movement Configuration:	Openface
Movement Finish:	Nickel
Movement Setting:	Pendant
Plate:	Full Plate
Barrel:	Going
Balance Type:	Expansion
Balance Jewel Material:	Ruby
Train:	Quick
Regulator:	Moseley
Hairspring:	Breguet
Standard Dial Type:	Single-Sunk
Adjusted:	No
Railroad Grade:	No
U.S. Patents:	77078, 347272, 345619
Case:	Various
Run ID:	6053.317G22.18S2667.185M983.O2001.P3653.15J1751
Data Research:	1909 Elgin Serial List 1915 Elgin Serial List 1927/1950 Elgin Serial List
Database Version:	v52.536
Advanced Metrics
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index: Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration	787.32
PWDB Relative Rarity Index: Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration	304.19
Share of Production: Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration	0.517%
Registry Population: Scoped for This Run Only	11 (0.37%)
$ Estimated Value (12 Month Change):	5.26% Analyzing 812 Sales

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Production Metrics Tree: Grade 317

Target Profile: 18S-M5-15J-ONP-U

Elgin Grade 317 (All Variations): 261,500 ETP

18S: 261,500 100.00%
18s, Grade 317

18S-M5: 261,500 100.00%
18s, Grade 317, Model 5

18S-M5-15J: 261,500 100.00%
18s, Grade 317, Model 5, 15 Jewels

18S-M5-15J-ONP: 261,500 100.00%
18s, Grade 317, Model 5, 15 Jewels, Openface/Pendant/Nickel

18S-M5-15J-ONP-U: 261,500 100.00%

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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.

Anonymous · April 22, 2024

Serial Number 13460376 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · March 18, 2024

Serial Number 13458667 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · June 16, 2023

Serial Number 13460575 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · May 11, 2023

Serial Number 13460575 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · May 16, 2022

Serial Number 13460249 was reported as accurate.

Rickhufnagel7 Top Contributor Elgin Expert Hampden Expert Supporter 630 · January 15, 2022

Serial Number 13459173 was reported as accurate.

WrongCentury Supporter 24 · December 1, 2021

Serial Number 13459173 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Rovelstad Bros. signed dial and movement
Source: https://www.ebay.com/itm/333866257106

Curator Response: Thanks for the report. The database has been updated accordingly.

Anonymous · January 6, 2020

Serial Number 13460279 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 20, 2019

Serial Number 13458233 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 13, 2019

Serial Number 13458083 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · November 25, 2018

Serial Number 13458083 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 25, 2017

Serial Number 13460000 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · June 30, 2017

Serial Number 13459130 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · June 21, 2017

Serial Number 13459130 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: accurate except for the movement is marked , THE
ACCURATE TIMER.

Anonymous · June 3, 2017

Serial Number 13459130 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · May 29, 2015

Serial Number 13459285 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Actually, this s/n movement is marked "The
Consolidated Time Lock Co". It does appear to be
a Grade 317, only somewhat modified (stripped
down) for use as a vault timelock.