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From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin Grade 390 Pocket Watch

Elgin National Watch Co.

Grade: 390

"B.W. Raymond" or "No. 349"

Manufacturer: Elgin
Manufacturer Location: Elgin, Illinois
Movement Serial Number: 15644486
Grade: 390
Variation: Mixed
Model: 8
Generation: Third
Class: 91
Estimated Production Year: 1911
Run Quantity: 1,000
Grade/Model Run: 2 of 5
Grade/Model Total Production: 4,400
Variant Est. Production: 1,000 (18S-M8-21J-ONL-A5PTI-MIXED)
Size: 18s
Jewels: 21j
Jewel Material: Ruby, Sapphire & Diamond
Jewel Setting: Gold Settings (Screw-Set)
Movement Configuration: Openface
Movement Finish: Nickel
Movement Signing Style: Mixed
Movement Inlay Color: Gilt
Movement Setting: Lever
Plate: 3/4 Plate
Double Roller: Yes
Barrel: Safety
Balance Jewel Material: Diamond
Train: Quick
Regulator: Traveling Nut (spring)
Hairspring: Breguet
Pallet Jewel Material: Sapphire
Standard Dial Type: Double-Sunk
Adjusted: Yes
Adjusted to Position: Yes
Adjusted # of Positions: 5
Adjusted to Temperature: Yes
Adjusted to Isochronism: Yes
Railroad Grade: Yes
Railroad Grade Classification: Class A
Wind Indicator Available: Yes
Wind Indicator Present: Mixed
U.S. Patents: 77078, 596407, 596408
Movement Markings: B.W. Raymond [or "No. 349"]
Elgin, Ill.
U.S.A.
21 Jewels
Adjusted 5 Positions
Safety Barrel
Data Research: 1915 Elgin Serial List
1927/1950 Elgin Serial List
Case: Various
Registry Population: 12 (1.20%)
Database Version: v49.716

Production Metrics Tree: Grade 390

Target Profile: 18S-M8-21J-ONL-A5PTI-MIXED

Elgin Grade 390 (All Variations): 4,400 ETP
18S: 4,400 100.00%
18s, Grade 390
18S-M8: 4,400 100.00%
18s, Grade 390, Model 8
18S-M8-21J: 4,400 100.00%
18s, Grade 390, Model 8, 21 Jewels
18S-M8-21J-ONL: 4,400 100.00%
18s, Grade 390, Model 8, 21 Jewels, Openface/Lever/Nickel
18S-M8-21J-ONL-A5PTI: 4,400 100.00%
18S-M8-21J-ONL-A5PTI-MIXED: 1,000 22.73%

Population Registry for This Run

Image Serial Number Run Position Primary Identification Method Discovery Date
1
Image Credit: bains71
15644199 #199 Collection April 19, 2017
2 15644259 #259 Inferred
3 15644284 #284 Collection January 23, 2019
4 15644412 #412 Marketplace May 25, 2014
5 15644469 #469 Marketplace January 09, 2017
6 15644479 #479 Marketplace November 08, 2017
7 15644486 #486 Collection September 02, 2017
8 15644567 #567 Collection March 11, 2014
9 15644591 #591 Marketplace November 15, 2014
10 15644610 #610 Collection January 21, 2017
11
Image Credit: Urbanops
15644711 #711 Collection November 10, 2018
12 15644776 #776 Collection December 10, 2014
Standard Deviation of Known Examples: 177.92 (Expected: 288.82, Δ110.90/11.09%)

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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.


Anonymous · September 20, 2020

Serial Number 15644820 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Accurate in all respects (including diamond end
stones and marked adj 5 pos) EXCEPT marked as "No
349" not marked as B.W.R.
Curator Response: Thanks for the report. If possible, please upload an image of the movement to your collection for further evaluation and documentation.

Anonymous · April 10, 2019

Serial Number 15644617 was reported as accurate.

swhite1750 26 · March 30, 2019

Serial Number 15644150 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.

swhite1750 26 · March 30, 2019

Serial Number 15644150 was reported as accurate.

cmdraven 3542 · November 29, 2018

Serial Number 15644284 was reported as accurate.

Urbanops 51 · November 10, 2018

Serial Number 15644711 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · October 27, 2017

Serial Number 15644839 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · April 11, 2017

Serial Number 15644617 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: This one of the Movements that is marked No. 349,
also has a Gold Hairspring, yes it a Grade 390 BW
Raymond but is not marked a BW Raymond and says
No. 349
Curator Response: Thanks for submitting this information. Please upload a photo to your collection so we can take a closer look.

Anonymous · April 11, 2017

Serial Number 15644617 was reported as accurate.

dfchong 837 · April 6, 2017

Serial Number 15644199 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 16, 2017

Serial Number 15644617 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 11, 2016

Serial Number 15644913 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · August 22, 2015

Serial Number 15644204 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · April 8, 2015

Serial Number 15644081 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: No wind indicator

barrypiggott 88 · January 20, 2015

Serial Number 15644591 was reported as accurate.

clockdoc 1 · March 11, 2014

Serial Number 15644567 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: mine hasd wind indicator

Anonymous · October 22, 2012

Serial Number 15644065 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · October 22, 2012

Serial Number 15644065 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · September 12, 2012

Serial Number 15644771 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 25, 2012

Serial Number 15644916 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 24, 2012

Serial Number 15644916 was reported as accurate.

Elgin Grade 390 Pocket Watch