Pocket Watch Database

From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin Grade 391 Pocket Watch
Elgin Grade 391 Pocket Watch

Elgin National Watch Co.

Grade: 391

Mixed Run: "Father Time" or "B.W. Raymond"

Manufacturer: Elgin
Manufacturer Location: Elgin, Illinois
Movement Serial Number: 16214714
Grade: 391
Variation: Mixed
Model: 15
Class: 98
Estimated Production Year: 1912
Run Quantity: 1,000
Grade/Model Run: 5 of 9
Grade/Model Total Production: 9,000
Variant Est. Production: 4,000 (16S-M15-21J-ONL-A5PTI-MIXED)
Size: 16s
Jewels: 21j
Jewel Material: Ruby & Sapphire
Jewel Setting: Gold Settings (Screw-Set)
Movement Configuration: Openface
Movement Finish: Nickel
Movement Setting: Lever
Plate: 3/4 Plate
Double Roller: Yes
Barrel: Safety
Train: Quick
Regulator: Traveling Nut (spring)
Hairspring: Breguet
Pallet Jewel Material: Sapphire
Standard Dial Type: Double-Sunk
Adjusted: Yes
Adjusted to Position: Yes
Adjusted # of Positions: 5
Adjusted to Temperature: Yes
Adjusted to Isochronism: Yes
Railroad Grade: Yes
Railroad Grade Classification: Class A
Wind Indicator: No
U.S. Patents: 77078, 596407, 596408
Data Research: 1915 Elgin Serial List
1927/1950 Elgin Serial List
Case: Various
Run ID: 7729.391G5.16S1830.1615M43.O2819.L2080.21J209
Database Version: v52.246
Advanced Metrics
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index:
Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
27.09
PWDB Relative Rarity Index:
Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
10.41
Share of Production:
Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
0.018%
Registry Population: 9 (0.90%)
$ Estimated Value (12 Month Change): 4.44% Analyzing 78 Sales
Research Note: #16214599: Reported as Marked "Father Time."

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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.


Anonymous · December 28, 2022

Serial Number 16214454 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 13, 2022

Serial Number 16214766 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 10, 2021

Serial Number 16214599 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Movement is marked “Father Time”. No wind
indicator present.
Curator Response: Thanks for the report. This information has been noted in the research notes for this run.

HorologyLLC 11 · April 17, 2020

Serial Number 16214322 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 7, 2017

Serial Number 16214799 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · April 7, 2017

Serial Number 16214436 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Marked BW Raymond.

Anonymous · July 26, 2016

Serial Number 16214505 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Movement marked B.W. Raymond.

Anonymous · July 23, 2016

Serial Number 16214505 was reported as accurate.

daddo46 991 · December 23, 2015

Serial Number 16214067 was reported as accurate.

daddo46 991 · December 23, 2015

Serial Number 16214067 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · October 20, 2014

Serial Number 16214284 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · April 25, 2014

Serial Number 16214067 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: marked "Father Time"

Anonymous · August 23, 2013

Serial Number 16214836 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · August 30, 2012

Serial Number 16214360 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · June 15, 2012

Serial Number 16214977 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: movement marked "Father Time"
Elgin Grade 391 Pocket Watch
Elgin Grade 391 Pocket Watch