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Access Date: January 20, 2025
From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin National Watch Co.
Grade: 391
Mixed Run: "Father Time" or "B.W. Raymond"
| Manufacturer: | Elgin |  |
| Manufacturer Location: | Elgin, Illinois | |
| Movement Serial Number: | 16214714 | |
| Grade: | 391 | |
| Variation: | Mixed | |
| Model: | 15 | |
| Class: | 98 | |
| Estimated Production Year: | 1912 | |
| Run Quantity: | 1,000 | |
| Grade/Model Run: | 5 of 9 | |
| Grade/Model Total Production: | 9,000 | |
| Variant Est. Production: | 4,000 (16S-M15-21J-ONL-A5PTI-MIXED) | |
| Size: | 16s | |
| Jewels: | 21j | |
| Jewel Material: | Ruby & Sapphire | |
| Jewel Setting: | Gold Settings (Screw-Set) | |
| Movement Configuration: | Openface | |
| Movement Finish: | Nickel | |
| Movement Setting: | Lever | |
| Plate: | 3/4 Plate | |
| Double Roller: | Yes | |
| Barrel: | Safety | |
| Train: | Quick | |
| Regulator: | Traveling Nut (spring) | |
| Hairspring: | Breguet | |
| Pallet Jewel Material: | Sapphire | |
| Standard Dial Type: | Double-Sunk | |
| Adjusted: | Yes | |
| Adjusted to Position: | Yes | |
| Adjusted # of Positions: | 5 | |
| Adjusted to Temperature: | Yes | |
| Adjusted to Isochronism: | Yes | |
| Railroad Grade: | Yes | |
| Railroad Grade Classification: | Class A | |
| Wind Indicator: | No | |
| U.S. Patents: | 77078, 596407, 596408 | |
| Case: | Various | |
| Run ID: | 7730.391G5.16S1830.1615M43.O2819.L2081.21J210 | |
| Data Research: |
1915 Elgin Serial List 1927/1950 Elgin Serial List |
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| Database Version: | v52.563 | |
| Advanced Metrics | ||
| PWDB Absolute Rarity Index: Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 27.11 | |
| PWDB Relative Rarity Index: Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 10.41 | |
| Share of Production: Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 0.018% | |
| Registry Population: Scoped for This Run Only | 9 (0.90%) | |
| $ Estimated Value (12 Month Change): | 18.60% Analyzing 80 Sales | |
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Research Note: #16214599: Reported as Marked "Father Time."
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Production Metrics Tree: Grade 391
Target Profile: 16S-M15-21J-ONL-A5PTI-MIXED
| Elgin Grade 391 (All Variations): 9,000 ETP | |
| 16S: 9,000 100.00% 16s, Grade 391 |
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| 16S-M15: 9,000 100.00% 16s, Grade 391, Model 15 |
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| 16S-M15-21J: 9,000 100.00% 16s, Grade 391, Model 15, 21 Jewels |
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| 16S-M15-21J-ONL: 9,000 100.00% 16s, Grade 391, Model 15, 21 Jewels, Openface/Lever/Nickel |
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| 16S-M15-21J-ONL-A5PTI: 9,000 100.00% | |
| 16S-M15-21J-ONL-A5PTI-MIXED: 4,000 44.44% | Other: 5,000
Other Variants or Unclassified |
Population Registry for This Run
| Image | Serial Number | Run Position | Primary Identification Method | Discovery Date | |
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There are 9 watches in the population registry for this run with 1 image.
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Verification Reports for this Run
The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.
Anonymous · December 28, 2022
Serial Number 16214454 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · December 13, 2022
Serial Number 16214766 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · July 10, 2021
Serial Number 16214599 was reported as inaccurate.
indicator present.
HorologyLLC 11 · April 17, 2020
Serial Number 16214322 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · December 7, 2017
Serial Number 16214799 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · April 7, 2017
Serial Number 16214436 was reported as inaccurate.
Anonymous · July 26, 2016
Serial Number 16214505 was reported as inaccurate.
Anonymous · July 23, 2016
Serial Number 16214505 was reported as accurate.
daddo46 992 · December 23, 2015
Serial Number 16214067 was reported as accurate.
daddo46 992 · December 23, 2015
Serial Number 16214067 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · October 20, 2014
Serial Number 16214284 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · April 25, 2014
Serial Number 16214067 was reported as inaccurate.
Anonymous · August 23, 2013
Serial Number 16214836 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · August 30, 2012
Serial Number 16214360 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · June 15, 2012
Serial Number 16214977 was reported as inaccurate.
