Pocket Watch Database


From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin Grade 388 Pocket Watch

Elgin National Watch Co.

Grade: 388

Father Time

Manufacturer: Elgin Question Mark
Manufacturer Location: Elgin, Illinois Question Mark
Movement Serial Number: 16409117 Question Mark
Grade: 388 Question Mark
Variation: Father Time (Blackletter) Question Mark
Model: 15 Question Mark
Class: 98 Question Mark
Estimated Production Year: 1912 Question Mark
Run Quantity: 1,000 Question Mark
Grade/Model Run: 4 of 19 Question Mark
Grade/Model Total Production: 19,000 Question Mark
Variant Est. Production: 4,000 (16S-M15-21J-ONL-A5PTI-FATHER TIME (BLACKLETTER)) Question Mark
Size: 16s Question Mark
Jewels: 21j Question Mark
Jewel Material: Ruby & Sapphire Question Mark
Jewel Setting: Gold Settings (Screw-Set) Question Mark
Movement Configuration: Openface Question Mark
Movement Finish: Nickel Question Mark
Movement Inlay Color: Gilt Question Mark
Movement Setting: Lever Question Mark
Plate: 3/4 Plate Question Mark
Double Roller: Yes Question Mark
Barrel: Going Question Mark
Train: Quick Question Mark
Regulator: Traveling Nut (spring) Question Mark
Pallet Jewel Material: Sapphire Question Mark
Standard Dial Type: Double-Sunk Question Mark
Adjusted: Yes Question Mark
Adjusted to Position: Yes Question Mark
Adjusted # of Positions: 5 Question Mark
Adjusted to Temperature: Yes Question Mark
Adjusted to Isochronism: Yes Question Mark
Railroad Grade: Yes Question Mark
Wind Indicator: No Question Mark
U.S. Patents: 596407, 77078, 596408 Question Mark
Case: Various Question Mark
Run ID: 7860.388G4.16S1860.1615M47.O2880.L2091.21J216 Question Mark
Data Research: 1915 Elgin Serial List
1927/1950 Elgin Serial List
Question Mark
Database Version: v52.512 Question Mark
Advanced Metrics
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index:
Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
57.20 Question Mark
PWDB Relative Rarity Index:
Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
22.05 Question Mark
Share of Production:
Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
0.038% Question Mark
Registry Population:
Scoped for This Run Only
10 (1.00%) Question Mark
$ Estimated Value (12 Month Change): -8.30% Analyzing 185 Sales Question Mark

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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.


tsapala 97 · December 13, 2018

Serial Number 16409268 was reported as accurate.

WLBelkriver33 804 · November 5, 2018

Serial Number 16409152 was reported as accurate.

WLBelkriver33 804 · November 4, 2018

Serial Number 16409152 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · October 21, 2017

Serial Number 16409893 was reported as accurate.

dfchong 837 · October 7, 2016

Serial Number 16409974 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · February 26, 2016

Serial Number 16409746 was reported as accurate.

Groovysalsa 109 · November 8, 2015

Serial Number 16409117 was reported as accurate.

Groovysalsa 109 · October 10, 2015

Serial Number 16409117 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: No wind indicator present

Rebelyell 11 · July 25, 2015

Serial Number 16409940 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · June 30, 2015

Serial Number 16409673 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 17, 2015

Serial Number 16409053 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 7, 2015

Serial Number 16409053 was reported as accurate.

Steve1 13 · December 1, 2014

Serial Number 16409794 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · April 8, 2014

Serial Number 16409117 was reported as accurate.

jerrydk7 227 · March 8, 2014

Serial Number 16409829 was reported as accurate.

nd01ken 4 · December 21, 2013

Serial Number 16409517 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 18, 2013

Serial Number 16409517 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · February 5, 2013

Serial Number 16409845 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · August 30, 2012

Serial Number 16409994 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 17, 2012

Serial Number 16409929 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: No winding indicator
Changes since this report was submitted:
Double Roller changed from Unknown to Yes

Anonymous · May 3, 2012

Serial Number 16409994 was reported as accurate.

Elgin Grade 388 Pocket Watch