Pocket Watch Database

From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin Grade 65 Pocket Watch

Elgin National Watch Co.

Grade: 65

Mixed Run: Size 8s and Size 6s Movements

Manufacturer: Elgin
Manufacturer Location: Elgin, Illinois
Movement Serial Number: 1689835
Grade: 65
Model: 1
Class: 51
Estimated Production Year: 1885
Run Quantity: 5,000
Grade/Model Run: 11 of 12
Grade/Model Total Production: 29,000
Size: 8s
Jewels: 13j
Movement Configuration: Hunting
Movement Finish: Gilt
Movement Setting: Lever
Plate: 3/4 Plate
Barrel: Going
Train: Quick
Regulator: Plain
Adjusted: No
Railroad Grade: No
U.S. Patents: 77078
Data Research: 1896 Elgin Serial List
1904 Elgin Serial List
1915 Elgin Serial List
1927/1950 Elgin Serial List
Case: Various
Run ID: 789.65G11.8S51.81M51.H734.L276.13J70
Database Version: v52.107
Advanced Metrics
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index:
Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
86.69
PWDB Relative Rarity Index:
Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
33.68
Share of Production:
Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
0.057%
Registry Population: 23 (0.46%)
Research Note: While the majority of movements observed in this run are Size 8, #1689567 has been verified as Size 6 (photos), indicating the possible beginning transition point for Grade 65 occurred during this run. [eBay #312127927242]. #1689835: Verified as 6-Size featuring an arched serial number marking.

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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.


Rcardkidz 3332 · December 23, 2023

Serial Number 1689203 was reported as accurate.

MoatsJustin1 top-contributor 4680 · June 19, 2023

Serial Number 1686261 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · June 7, 2022

Serial Number 1686355 was reported as accurate.

MARTIN500 30 · October 27, 2021

Serial Number 1686895 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 18, 2019

Serial Number 1688933 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · March 23, 2019

Serial Number 1688377 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · March 21, 2019

Serial Number 1689149 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 5, 2019

Serial Number 1685149 was reported as accurate.

RedTimepiece 1 · August 17, 2018

Serial Number 1689835 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · May 7, 2018

Serial Number 1689567 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · November 12, 2015

Serial Number 1685427 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Elgin Grade 65 is size 8s, not 6s
Changes since this report was submitted:
Size changed from 6 to 8

Dkaypepperscollection 14 · June 12, 2015

Serial Number 1685806 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Elgin gr 65 ss # 1685806, is a rare 8s size &
backside digital mics at 34.6mm, The info. listed
is inaccurate , shows 6s, this takes a rare size
8s HC
Changes since this report was submitted:
Size changed from 6 to 8

rtwatches 943 · March 2, 2015

Serial Number 1685403 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Size changed from 6 to 8

Anonymous · January 16, 2015

Serial Number 1686839 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Size changed from 6 to 8

cmdraven 3936 · October 18, 2014

Serial Number 1685806 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Size changed from 6 to 8

diamondz4ever 1 · May 15, 2014

Serial Number 1686174 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Size changed from 6 to 8

Kronk9 2 · April 6, 2014

Serial Number 1686632 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Size changed from 6 to 8

Anonymous · April 6, 2014

Serial Number 1686632 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Size changed from 6 to 8

cmdraven 3936 · October 3, 2013

Serial Number 1689546 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Size changed from 6 to 8

Anonymous · December 7, 2012

Serial Number 1689590 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Size changed from 6 to 8

Anonymous · October 22, 2012

Serial Number 1688413 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Size changed from 6 to 8
Elgin Grade 65 Pocket Watch