Pocket Watch Database
https://pocketwatchdatabase.com/search/result/elgin/1689852
Access Date: November 08, 2024
From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin National Watch Co.
Grade: 65
Mixed Run: Size 8s and Size 6s Movements
| Manufacturer: | Elgin |  |
| Manufacturer Location: | Elgin, Illinois | |
| Movement Serial Number: | 1689852 | |
| Grade: | 65 | |
| Model: | 1 | |
| Class: | 51 | |
| Estimated Production Year: | 1885 | |
| Run Quantity: | 5,000 | |
| Grade/Model Run: | 11 of 12 | |
| Grade/Model Total Production: | 29,000 | |
| Size: | 8s | |
| Jewels: | 13j | |
| Movement Configuration: | Hunting | |
| Movement Finish: | Gilt | |
| Movement Setting: | Lever | |
| Plate: | 3/4 Plate | |
| Barrel: | Going | |
| Train: | Quick | |
| Regulator: | Plain | |
| Adjusted: | No | |
| Railroad Grade: | No | |
| U.S. Patents: | 77078 | |
| Case: | Various | |
| Run ID: | 789.65G11.8S51.81M51.H734.L276.13J70 | |
| Data Research: |
1896 Elgin Serial List 1904 Elgin Serial List 1915 Elgin Serial List 1927/1950 Elgin Serial List |
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| Database Version: | v52.428 | |
| Advanced Metrics | ||
| PWDB Absolute Rarity Index: Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 87.31 | |
| PWDB Relative Rarity Index: Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 33.68 | |
| Share of Production: Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 0.057% | |
| Registry Population: Scoped for This Run Only | 24 (0.48%) | |
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Research Note: While the majority of movements observed in this run are Size 8, #1689567 has been verified as Size 6 (photos), indicating the possible beginning transition point for Grade 65 occurred during this run. [eBay #312127927242]. #1689835: Verified as 6-Size featuring an arched serial number marking.
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Production Metrics Tree: Grade 65
Target Profile: 8S-M1-13J-HGL-U
| Elgin Grade 65 (All Variations): 42,000 ETP | |
| 8S: 29,000 69.05% 8s, Grade 65 |
Other: 13,000
Other Sizes or Unclassified |
| 8S-M1: 29,000 69.05% 8s, Grade 65, Model 1 |
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| 8S-M1-13J: 29,000 69.05% 8s, Grade 65, Model 1, 13 Jewels |
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| 8S-M1-13J-HGL: 29,000 69.05% 8s, Grade 65, Model 1, 13 Jewels, Hunting/Lever/Gilt |
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| 8S-M1-13J-HGL-U: 29,000 69.05% | |
Population Registry for This Run
| Image | Serial Number | Run Position | Primary Identification Method | Discovery Date | |
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There are 24 watches in the population registry for this run with 2 images.
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Verification Reports for this Run
The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.
Rcardkidz 4050 · December 23, 2023
Serial Number 1689203 was reported as accurate.
MoatsJustin1 top-contributor 5266 · June 19, 2023
Serial Number 1686261 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · June 7, 2022
Serial Number 1686355 was reported as accurate.
MARTIN500 30 · October 27, 2021
Serial Number 1686895 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · July 18, 2019
Serial Number 1688933 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · March 23, 2019
Serial Number 1688377 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · March 21, 2019
Serial Number 1689149 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · January 5, 2019
Serial Number 1685149 was reported as accurate.
RedTimepiece 1 · August 17, 2018
Serial Number 1689835 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · May 7, 2018
Serial Number 1689567 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · November 12, 2015
Serial Number 1685427 was reported as inaccurate.
Dkaypepperscollection 14 · June 12, 2015
Serial Number 1685806 was reported as inaccurate.
backside digital mics at 34.6mm, The info. listed
is inaccurate , shows 6s, this takes a rare size
8s HC
rtwatches 943 · March 2, 2015
Serial Number 1685403 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · January 16, 2015
Serial Number 1686839 was reported as accurate.
cmdraven 4041 · October 18, 2014
Serial Number 1685806 was reported as accurate.
diamondz4ever 1 · May 15, 2014
Serial Number 1686174 was reported as accurate.
Kronk9 2 · April 6, 2014
Serial Number 1686632 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · April 6, 2014
Serial Number 1686632 was reported as accurate.
cmdraven 4041 · October 3, 2013
Serial Number 1689546 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · December 7, 2012
Serial Number 1689590 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · October 22, 2012
Serial Number 1688413 was reported as accurate.
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