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Access Date: December 03, 2024
From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin National Watch Co.
Grade: 62
H.Z. Culver, Mixed Run: Some Movements Marked "Adjusted."
| Manufacturer: | Elgin |  |
| Manufacturer Location: | Elgin, Illinois | |
| Movement Serial Number: | 170608 | |
| Grade: | 62 | |
| Variation: | H.Z. Culver | |
| Model: | 1 | |
| Class: | 2 | |
| Estimated Production Year: | 1871 | |
| Run Quantity: | 5,000 | |
| Grade/Model Run: | 13 of 17 | |
| Grade/Model Total Production: | 16,146 | |
| Variant Est. Production: | 9,500 (18S-M1-15J-HGK-A-H.Z. CULVER) | |
| Size: | 18s | |
| Jewels: | 15j | |
| Movement Configuration: | Adaptable | |
| Movement Finish: | Gilt | |
| Movement Signing Style: | Formal Script | |
| Movement Inlay Color: | None | |
| Movement Setting: | Key | |
| Plate: | Full Plate | |
| Barrel: | Going | |
| Train: | Quick | |
| Regulator: | Plain | |
| Adjusted: | Yes | |
| Adjusted to Temperature: | No | |
| Railroad Grade: | No | |
| U.S. Patents: | 77078 | |
| Movement Markings: | H.Z. Culver Elgin, Ills. Adjusted Patent Pinion |
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| Case: | Various | |
| Run ID: | 165.62G13.18S158.181M156.H164.K162.15J50 | |
| Data Research: |
1896 Elgin Serial List 1904 Elgin Serial List 1915 Elgin Serial List 1927/1950 Elgin Serial List |
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| Database Version: | v52.479 | |
| Advanced Metrics | ||
| PWDB Absolute Rarity Index: Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 48.61 | |
| PWDB Relative Rarity Index: Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 18.73 | |
| Share of Production: Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 0.032% | |
| Registry Population: Scoped for This Run Only | 45 (0.90%) | |
| $ Estimated Value (12 Month Change): | -10.78% Analyzing 128 Sales | |
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Research Note: This run represents the first H.Z. Culver movements marked "Adjusted." Earlier movements in the run (<~172,500) are likely not marked "Adjusted," while later serial numbers are more likely to be marked "Adjusted." #170608 and #172957: Verified as Marked "Adjusted."
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Production Metrics Tree: Grade 62
Target Profile: 18S-M1-15J-HGK-A-H.Z. CULVER
| Elgin Grade 62 (All Variations): 16,146 ETP | ||
| 18S: 16,146 100.00% 18s, Grade 62 |
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| 18S-M1: 16,146 100.00% 18s, Grade 62, Model 1 |
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| 18S-M1-15J: 16,146 100.00% 18s, Grade 62, Model 1, 15 Jewels |
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| 18S-M1-15J-HGK: 16,146 100.00% 18s, Grade 62, Model 1, 15 Jewels, Adaptable/Key/Gilt |
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| 18S-M1-15J-HGK-A: 10,500 65.03% | Other: 5,646
Other Adjustments or Unclassified |
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| 18S-M1-15J-HGK-A-H.Z. CULVER: 9,500 58.84% | Other: 1,000
Other Variants or Unclassified |
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Population Registry for This Run
| Image | Serial Number | Run Position | Primary Identification Method | Discovery Date | |
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There are 45 watches in the population registry for this run with 6 images.
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Verification Reports for this Run
The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.
Anonymous · March 27, 2024
Serial Number 173296 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · February 25, 2024
Serial Number 171218 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · January 21, 2024
Serial Number 172170 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · June 2, 2023
Serial Number 171679 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · June 2, 2023
Serial Number 172982 was reported as accurate.
2mnyboxers Supporter 408 · April 24, 2022
Serial Number 173386 was reported as inaccurate.
2mnyboxers Supporter 408 · April 7, 2022
Serial Number 173386 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · November 5, 2021
Serial Number 172388 was reported as inaccurate.
or tarnish on movement or blued screws, ''NOT''
marked adjusted
Anonymous · February 19, 2021
Serial Number 170293 was reported as accurate.
bubba70 543 · December 6, 2020
Serial Number 170197 was reported as accurate.
bubba70 543 · December 6, 2020
Serial Number 170197 was reported as accurate.
Dave895 Supporter 101 · September 9, 2020
Serial Number 170608 was reported as accurate.
2mnyboxers Supporter 408 · August 7, 2020
Serial Number 173386 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · June 20, 2020
Serial Number 173386 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · March 6, 2020
Serial Number 173878 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · March 5, 2020
Serial Number 173608 was reported as accurate.
goldnsilvershop 20 · October 21, 2019
Serial Number 171375 was reported as accurate.
Jwatch73 25 · August 29, 2019
Serial Number 172481 was reported as accurate.
winterwolf Supporter 97 · May 19, 2019
Serial Number 172957 was reported as inaccurate.
Anonymous · February 17, 2019
Serial Number 173350 was reported as accurate.
BOBTICTAC1940 34 · December 7, 2018
Serial Number 170535 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · September 13, 2018
Serial Number 172016 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · May 7, 2018
Serial Number 173185 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · May 7, 2018
Serial Number 173185 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · March 30, 2018
Serial Number 172250 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · March 10, 2018
Serial Number 170549 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · February 7, 2018
Serial Number 171646 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · December 25, 2017
Serial Number 170764 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · December 25, 2017
Serial Number 170704 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · November 29, 2017
Serial Number 174511 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · April 30, 2017
Serial Number 170148 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · April 30, 2017
Serial Number 170148 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · March 19, 2017
Serial Number 171452 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · February 17, 2017
Serial Number 171204 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · December 22, 2015
Serial Number 173869 was reported as accurate.
Groovysalsa 109 · December 15, 2015
Serial Number 174670 was reported as accurate.
mlat2012 Supporter 55 · September 30, 2015
Serial Number 171355 was reported as accurate.
Notguilty 35 · September 17, 2015
Serial Number 174443 was reported as accurate.
Groovysalsa 109 · July 31, 2015
Serial Number 174670 was reported as accurate.
Gasperoff Supporter 727 · May 1, 2015
Serial Number 173943 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · January 13, 2015
Serial Number 172654 was reported as inaccurate.
Anonymous · January 8, 2015
Serial Number 174670 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · December 9, 2014
Serial Number 173684 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · November 29, 2014
Serial Number 172062 was reported as inaccurate.
Anonymous · March 25, 2014
Serial Number 170667 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · February 20, 2014
Serial Number 172941 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · February 20, 2014
Serial Number 172941 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · October 21, 2013
Serial Number 174767 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · September 2, 2013
Serial Number 171518 was reported as inaccurate.
casillas 40 · September 1, 2013
Serial Number 171798 was reported as inaccurate.
adjusted and unadjusted movements.
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