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Access Date: April 09, 2025
From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin National Watch Co.
Grade: 401
B.W. Raymond
| Manufacturer: | Elgin |  |
| Manufacturer Location: | Elgin, Illinois | |
| Movement Serial Number: | 17347053 | |
| Grade: | 401 | |
| Variation: | B.W. Raymond | |
| Model: | 17 | |
| Class: | 126 | |
| Estimated Production Year: | 1912 | |
| Run Quantity: | 200 | |
| Grade/Model Run: | 1 of 1 | |
| Grade/Model Total Production: | 200 | |
| Grade/Model Unrealized Production: | 800 | |
| Size: | 16s | |
| Jewels: | 19j | |
| Movement Configuration: | Hunting | |
| Movement Finish: | Nickel | |
| Movement Setting: | Lever | |
| Plate: | 3/4 Plate | |
| Barrel: | Jeweled Safety | |
| Train: | Quick | |
| Regulator: | Traveling Nut (spring) | |
| Adjusted: | Yes | |
| Adjusted to Position: | Yes | |
| Adjusted # of Positions: | 5 | |
| Adjusted to Temperature: | Yes | |
| Adjusted to Isochronism: | Yes | |
| Railroad Grade: | No | |
| U.S. Patents: | 77078, 596407, 596408 | |
| Case: | Various | |
| Run ID: | 8519.401G1.16S2025.1617M3.H5216.L2124.19J115 | |
| Data Research: |
1915 Elgin Serial List 1927/1950 Elgin Serial List |
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| Database Version: | v52.633 | |
| Advanced Metrics | ||
| PWDB Absolute Rarity Index: Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 0.60 | |
| PWDB Relative Rarity Index: Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 0.17 | |
| Share of Production: Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 0.000% | |
| Registry Population: Scoped for This Run Only | 3 (1.50%) | |
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Research Note: Original factory serial lists designate 17347001-17348000 as Grade 401. However, only the first 200 movements were actually produced according to statistical analysis. The database has been adjusted to reflect the production more accurately.
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Production Metrics Tree: Grade 401
Target Profile: 16S-M17-19J-HNL-A5PTI-B.W. RAYMOND
| Elgin Grade 401 (All Variations): 200 ETP |
| 16S: 200 100.00% 16s, Grade 401 |
| 16S-M17: 200 100.00% 16s, Grade 401, Model 17 |
| 16S-M17-19J: 200 100.00% 16s, Grade 401, Model 17, 19 Jewels |
| 16S-M17-19J-HNL: 200 100.00% 16s, Grade 401, Model 17, 19 Jewels, Hunting/Lever/Nickel |
| 16S-M17-19J-HNL-A5PTI: 200 100.00% |
| 16S-M17-19J-HNL-A5PTI-B.W. RAYMOND: 200 100.00% |
| NOTE: 1,000 Units Originally Reserved with Est. 800 Never Manufactured |
Population Registry for This Run
| Image | Serial Number | Run Position | Primary Identification Method | Discovery Date | |
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There are 3 watches in the population registry for this run with 1 image.
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Verification Reports for this Run
The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.
cranemaker Supporter 83 · May 20, 2023
Serial Number 17347065 was reported as accurate.
steve288 264 · May 30, 2022
Serial Number 17347179 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · September 1, 2018
Serial Number 17347019 was reported as inaccurate.
Note: 17347019 marked adjusted 5 position.
Curator Response: Thanks for the report. If possible, please upload an image of the movement to your collection so we can take a closer look.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
caneman 10 · December 20, 2014
Serial Number 17347053 was reported as accurate.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
