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From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin Grade 69 Pocket Watch

Elgin National Watch Co.

Grade: 69

B.W. Raymond

Manufacturer: Elgin
Manufacturer Location: Elgin, Illinois
Movement Serial Number: 180166
Grade: 69
Variation: B.W. Raymond
Model: 1
Class: 1
Estimated Production Year: 1872
Run Quantity: 5,000
Grade/Model Run: 17 of 24
Grade/Model Total Production: 29,054
Variant Est. Production: 26,054 (18S-M1-15J-HGK-A2P-B.W. RAYMOND)
Size: 18s
Jewels: 15j
Movement Configuration: Adaptable
Movement Finish: Gilt
Movement Signing Style: Formal Script
Movement Inlay Color: None
Movement Setting: Key
Plate: Full Plate
Barrel: Going
Train: Quick
Regulator: Moseley
Adjusted: Yes
Adjusted to Position: Yes
Adjusted # of Positions: 2
Adjusted to Temperature: No
Adjustment Tolerance: [21] 2P +/- 15 s/24hrs., Temp. +/- 8 s/16hrs., Reg. +/- 5 s/24hrs.
Railroad Grade: Yes
U.S. Patents: 77078
Movement Markings: B.W. Raymond
Elgin, Ills.
Adjusted
Patent Pinion
Case: Various
Run ID: 167.69G17.18S159.181M157.H166.K164.15J52
Data Research: 1896 Elgin Serial List
1904 Elgin Serial List
1915 Elgin Serial List
1927/1950 Elgin Serial List
Database Version: v52.335
Advanced Metrics
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index:
Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
87.47
PWDB Relative Rarity Index:
Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
33.75
Share of Production:
Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
0.057%
Registry Population: 76 (1.52%)
$ Estimated Value (12 Month Change): -18.95% Analyzing 274 Sales
Research Note: First full Grade 69 Raymond run to be marked "Adjusted." (Previous run mixed).
#181107: Verified with Double-Sunk "Pennsylvania Railroad Co." Dial.
#181712: Verified with Double-Sunk "Pennsylvania Railroad Co." Dial.
#181713: Verified with Double-Sunk "Pennsylvania Railroad Co." Dial.
#180892: Verified with Double-Sunk "Pennsylvania Railroad Co." Dial.
#183354: Verified with blank barrel bridge and stem-wind/lever-set mechanism more consistent with the Model 4 (appears to have been adapted at some point from the standard KW/KS model).

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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.


Anonymous · September 2, 2023

Serial Number 184014 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · May 9, 2022

Serial Number 183717 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · September 27, 2021

Serial Number 184648 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · September 16, 2021

Serial Number 182033 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · September 14, 2021

Serial Number 182033 was reported as accurate.

pmwas1 97 · February 13, 2021

Serial Number 183354 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Stem wind, lever set with unmarked barrel bridge
Curator Response: Excellent find. Thanks for uploading the images!

Anonymous · October 28, 2020

Serial Number 183766 was reported as accurate.

sgallo 5 · July 16, 2020

Serial Number 184081 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · April 13, 2020

Serial Number 180142 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 16, 2019

Serial Number 180172 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 15, 2019

Serial Number 181274 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · November 18, 2019

Serial Number 180172 was reported as accurate.

Dystopiologist 3 · September 28, 2019

Serial Number 181697 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 27, 2019

Serial Number 184209 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · April 15, 2019

Serial Number 181485 was reported as accurate.

ncplumber 150 · April 14, 2019

Serial Number 180617 was reported as accurate.

rad291 Supporter 20 · December 26, 2018

Serial Number 184507 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 1, 2018

Serial Number 183088 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · November 7, 2018

Serial Number 183088 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · September 11, 2018

Serial Number 182967 was reported as accurate.

wmike565 Supporter 115 · September 7, 2018

Serial Number 184585 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · June 13, 2018

Serial Number 182980 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · May 8, 2018

Serial Number 184368 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · May 3, 2018

Serial Number 185000 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · April 1, 2018

Serial Number 184386 was reported as accurate.

rad291 Supporter 20 · March 21, 2018

Serial Number 184507 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · February 25, 2018

Serial Number 181754 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · October 3, 2017

Serial Number 181580 was reported as accurate.

Pwhitlow 1 · June 18, 2017

Serial Number 180203 was reported as accurate.

ncplumber 150 · March 12, 2017

Serial Number 180617 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · November 19, 2016

Serial Number 183876 was reported as accurate.

dfchong 837 · July 14, 2016

Serial Number 182715 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · March 18, 2016

Serial Number 180121 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · March 11, 2016

Serial Number 181405 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 10, 2015

Serial Number 181245 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.

Anonymous · November 22, 2015

Serial Number 180854 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · August 2, 2015

Serial Number 180400 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · May 8, 2015

Serial Number 183861 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 21, 2015

Serial Number 183540 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 19, 2015

Serial Number 183540 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 7, 2015

Serial Number 183306 was reported as accurate.

thhwatch 2 · November 23, 2014

Serial Number 183717 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · November 2, 2014

Serial Number 183664 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · August 31, 2014

Serial Number 182995 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · August 3, 2014

Serial Number 180724 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · May 3, 2014

Serial Number 182198 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · April 28, 2014

Serial Number 180899 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · February 13, 2014

Serial Number 182044 was reported as accurate.

jerrydk7 227 · January 21, 2014

Serial Number 181643 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 12, 2014

Serial Number 183575 was reported as accurate.

Elgin Grade 69 Pocket Watch