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Access Date: February 11, 2025
From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin National Watch Co.
Grade: 399
Lady Raymond
| Manufacturer: | Elgin |  |
| Manufacturer Location: | Elgin, Illinois | |
| Movement Serial Number: | 19397384 | |
| Grade: | 399 | |
| Model: | 2 | |
| Class: | 136 | |
| Estimated Production Year: | 1917 | |
| Run Quantity: | 2,000 | |
| Grade/Model Run: | 8 of 10 | |
| Grade/Model Total Production: | 11,000 | |
| Variant Est. Production: | 2,000 (5/0S-M2-17J) | |
| Size: | 5/0s | |
| Jewels: | 17j | |
| Movement Configuration: | Openface | |
| Movement Finish: | Nickel | |
| Movement Setting: | Pendant | |
| Plate: | 3/4 Plate | |
| Barrel: | Going | |
| Train: | Quick | |
| Regulator: | Plain | |
| Adjusted: | No | |
| Railroad Grade: | No | |
| U.S. Patents: | 77078, 596407 | |
| Case: | Various | |
| Run ID: | 9796.399G8.S75.M18.O3899.P7056.17J1378 | |
| Data Research: |
1927/1950 Elgin Serial List |
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| Database Version: | v52.608 | |
| Advanced Metrics | ||
| PWDB Absolute Rarity Index: Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 33.12 | |
| PWDB Relative Rarity Index: Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 12.74 | |
| Share of Production: Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 0.022% | |
| Registry Population: Scoped for This Run Only | 1 (0.05%) | |
Production Metrics Tree: Grade 399
Target Profile: 5/0S-M2-17J-ONP-U
| Elgin Grade 399 (All Variations): 11,000 ETP | |
| 5/0S: 11,000 100.00% 5/0s, Grade 399 |
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| 5/0S-M2: 11,000 100.00% 5/0s, Grade 399, Model 2 |
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| 5/0S-M2-17J: 2,000 18.18% 5/0s, Grade 399, Model 2, 17 Jewels |
Other: 9,000
Other Jewels or Unclassified |
| 5/0S-M2-17J-ONP: 2,000 18.18% 5/0s, Grade 399, Model 2, 17 Jewels, Openface/Pendant/Nickel |
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| 5/0S-M2-17J-ONP-U: 2,000 18.18% | |
Population Registry for This Run
| Image | Serial Number | Run Position | Primary Identification Method | Discovery Date | |
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There is 1 watch in the population registry for this run.
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Verification Reports for this Run
The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.
Anonymous · December 22, 2018
Serial Number 19398865 was reported as accurate.
daddo46 992 · February 27, 2016
Serial Number 19397068 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · September 12, 2015
Serial Number 19397928 was reported as inaccurate.
Note: 17 JEWELS
Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 15j to 17j
Anonymous · June 4, 2012
Serial Number 19397946 was reported as inaccurate.
Note: This particular model (in my hands) is a double
roller. I am assuming all of these particular
models are double rollers? My home e-mail is
Garciagang *****@verizon.net Please advise
roller. I am assuming all of these particular
models are double rollers? My home e-mail is
Garciagang *****@verizon.net Please advise
Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 15j to 17j
