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Access Date: November 22, 2024
From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin Grade 44 Pocket Watch
Elgin National Watch Co.

Grade: 44

"G.M. Wheeler" or "Elgin Nat'l Watch Co."

Manufacturer: Elgin Question Mark
Manufacturer Location: Elgin, Illinois Question Mark
Movement Serial Number: 2149816 Question Mark
Grade: 44 Question Mark
Variation: Mixed Question Mark
Model: 5 Question Mark
Class: 9 Question Mark
Estimated Production Year: 1887 Question Mark
Run Quantity: 5,000 Question Mark
Grade/Model Run: 2 of 43 Question Mark
Grade/Model Total Production: 69,000 Question Mark
Variant Est. Production: 21,000 (18S-M5-15J-ONP-U-MIXED) Question Mark
Size: 18s Question Mark
Jewels: 15j Question Mark
Jewel Setting: Screw-Set Question Mark
Movement Configuration: Openface Question Mark
Movement Finish: Nickel Question Mark
Movement Setting: Pendant Question Mark
Plate: Full Plate Question Mark
Barrel: Going Question Mark
Train: Quick Question Mark
Regulator: Moseley Question Mark
Adjusted: No Question Mark
Railroad Grade: No Question Mark
U.S. Patents: 77078, 347272, 345619 Question Mark
Case: Various Question Mark
Run ID: 853.44G2.18S558.185M4.O4.P13.15J238 Question Mark
Data Research: 1896 Elgin Serial List
1904 Elgin Serial List
1915 Elgin Serial List
1927/1950 Elgin Serial List
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Database Version: v52.450 Question Mark
Advanced Metrics
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index:
Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration		 207.74 Question Mark
PWDB Relative Rarity Index:
Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration		 80.22 Question Mark
Share of Production:
Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration		 0.136% Question Mark
Registry Population:
Scoped for This Run Only		45 (0.90%) Question Mark
$ Estimated Value (12 Month Change): -2.54% Analyzing 283 Sales Question Mark
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Production Metrics Tree: Grade 44

Target Profile: 18S-M5-15J-ONP-U-MIXED

Elgin Grade 44 (All Variations): 69,000 ETP
18S: 69,000 100.00%
18s, Grade 44
18S-M5: 69,000 100.00%
18s, Grade 44, Model 5
18S-M5-15J: 59,000 85.51%
18s, Grade 44, Model 5, 15 Jewels		 Other: 10,000
Other Jewels or Unclassified
18S-M5-15J-ONP: 59,000 85.51%
18s, Grade 44, Model 5, 15 Jewels, Openface/Pendant/Nickel
18S-M5-15J-ONP-U: 59,000 85.51%
18S-M5-15J-ONP-U-MIXED: 21,000 30.43% Other: 38,000
Other Variants or Unclassified

Population Registry for This Run

Image Serial Number Run Position Primary Identification Method Discovery Date
There are 45 watches in the population registry for this run with 2 images.
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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.

Anonymous · April 9, 2024

Serial Number 2147838 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · February 16, 2024

Serial Number 2147838 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 14, 2023

Serial Number 2148677 was reported as accurate.

cmdraven 4083 · October 22, 2023

Serial Number 2148425 was reported as accurate.

cjbrem Supporter 915 · July 17, 2022

Serial Number 2146712 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 15j or 17j to 15j

Anonymous · May 23, 2020

Serial Number 2148733 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 15j or 17j to 15j

cmdraven 4083 · April 23, 2020

Serial Number 2149998 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 15j or 17j to 15j

shaunleatham 55 · March 11, 2020

Serial Number 2146739 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 15j or 17j to 15j

shaunleatham 55 · March 10, 2020

Serial Number 2146739 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 15j or 17j to 15j

shaunleatham 55 · March 8, 2020

Serial Number 2146739 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 15j or 17j to 15j

Anonymous · December 13, 2019

Serial Number 2148677 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: no G wheeler stamping
Curator Response: Thanks for the report. If possible, please upload an image of the movement to your collection for further evaluation and documentation.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 15j or 17j to 15j

Anonymous · September 23, 2019

Serial Number 2148548 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 15j or 17j to 15j

Anonymous · January 5, 2019

Serial Number 2148677 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 15j or 17j to 15j

coinbow 2 · October 4, 2018

Serial Number 2145981 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 15j or 17j to 15j

Anonymous · November 5, 2017

Serial Number 2149327 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 15j or 17j to 15j

Anonymous · September 17, 2017

Serial Number 2149755 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 15j or 17j to 15j

Anonymous · July 15, 2017

Serial Number 2146195 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 15j or 17j to 15j

Anonymous · June 1, 2017

Serial Number 2147054 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 15j or 17j to 15j

sschnur 6 · February 10, 2017

Serial Number 2149816 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 23, 2017

Serial Number 2148372 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · November 6, 2016

Serial Number 2145811 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · August 3, 2016

Serial Number 2145897 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · February 20, 2016

Serial Number 2148547 was reported as accurate.

daddo46 992 · May 17, 2015

Serial Number 2147368 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · February 18, 2015

Serial Number 2149806 was reported as accurate.

cmdraven 4083 · November 6, 2014

Serial Number 2146746 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 24, 2014

Serial Number 2145439 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · April 23, 2014

Serial Number 2146321 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · April 11, 2013

Serial Number 2149669 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · March 5, 2013

Serial Number 2146292 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 17, 2013

Serial Number 2147626 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · November 26, 2012

Serial Number 2149005 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · October 28, 2012

Serial Number 2148441 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · May 25, 2012

Serial Number 2145964 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · April 20, 2012

Serial Number 2145298 was reported as accurate.

Elgin Grade 44 Pocket Watch