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From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin Grade 451 Pocket Watch

Elgin National Watch Co.

Grade: 451

Lord Elgin

Manufacturer: Elgin Question Mark
Manufacturer Location: Elgin, Illinois Question Mark
Movement Serial Number: 27591924 Question Mark
Grade: 451 Question Mark
Model: 4 Question Mark
Estimated Production Year: 1925 Question Mark
Run Quantity: 1,000 Question Mark
Grade/Model Run: 13 of 14 Question Mark
Grade/Model Total Production: 14,000 Question Mark
Size: 12s Question Mark
Jewels: 19j Question Mark
Movement Configuration: Openface Question Mark
Movement Finish: Nickel Question Mark
Movement Setting: Pendant Question Mark
Plate: 3/4 Plate Question Mark
Barrel: Going Question Mark
Train: Quick Question Mark
Regulator: Moseley Question Mark
Adjusted: Yes Question Mark
Adjusted to Position: Yes Question Mark
Adjusted # of Positions: 5 Question Mark
Adjusted to Temperature: Yes Question Mark
Adjusted to Isochronism: Yes Question Mark
Total Adjustments: 8 Question Mark
Railroad Grade: No Question Mark
U.S. Patents: 77078, 596407 Question Mark
Case: Various Question Mark
Run ID: 12696.451G13.12S2113.124M116.O5785.P9746.19J207 Question Mark
Data Research: 1927/1950 Elgin Serial List
Question Mark
Database Version: v52.465 Question Mark
Advanced Metrics
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index:
Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
42.15 Question Mark
PWDB Relative Rarity Index:
Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
16.23 Question Mark
Share of Production:
Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
0.028% Question Mark
Registry Population:
Scoped for This Run Only
15 (1.50%) Question Mark

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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.


cranemaker Supporter 82 · March 20, 2022

Serial Number 27591834 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 6, 2020

Serial Number 27591819 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 28, 2020

Serial Number 27591511 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.

pdxwatch 8 · October 19, 2018

Serial Number 27591924 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · October 7, 2018

Serial Number 27591819 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · April 4, 2018

Serial Number 27591795 was reported as accurate.

mdmb377 6 · June 23, 2016

Serial Number 27591284 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Size changed from 14 to 12
Adjusted # Positions changed from 6 to 5

Anonymous · August 15, 2013

Serial Number 27591917 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: mine says-adjusted to 8 positions
Changes since this report was submitted:
Size changed from 14 to 12

Anonymous · April 19, 2013

Serial Number 27591249 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: 8 adjustments
Changes since this report was submitted:
Size changed from 14 to 12

Anonymous · March 3, 2013

Serial Number 27591856 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: eight adjustments
Changes since this report was submitted:
Size changed from 14 to 12

Anonymous · February 2, 2013

Serial Number 27591795 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Size changed from 14 to 12

Anonymous · May 3, 2012

Serial Number 27591113 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Mine has 8 adjustments
Changes since this report was submitted:
Size changed from 14 to 12
Elgin Grade 451 Pocket Watch