Pocket Watch Database


From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin Grade 43 Pocket Watch

Elgin National Watch Co.

Grade: 43

Manufacturer: Elgin Question Mark
Manufacturer Location: Elgin, Illinois Question Mark
Movement Serial Number: 2772844 Question Mark
Grade: 43 Question Mark
Model: 5 Question Mark
Class: 10 Question Mark
Estimated Production Year: 1888 Question Mark
Run Quantity: 5,000 Question Mark
Grade/Model Run: 4 of 43 Question Mark
Grade/Model Total Production: 72,000 Question Mark
Size: 18s Question Mark
Jewels: 11j Question Mark
Movement Configuration: Openface Question Mark
Movement Finish: Half-Nickel Question Mark
Movement Setting: Pendant Question Mark
Plate: Full Plate Question Mark
Barrel: Going Question Mark
Train: Quick Question Mark
Regulator: Plain Question Mark
Adjusted: No Question Mark
Railroad Grade: No Question Mark
U.S. Patents: 77078, 347272, 345619 Question Mark
Case: Various Question Mark
Run ID: 957.43G4.18S607.185M23.O27.P39.11J339 Question Mark
Data Research: 1896 Elgin Serial List
1904 Elgin Serial List
1915 Elgin Serial List
1927/1950 Elgin Serial List
Question Mark
Database Version: v52.506 Question Mark
Advanced Metrics
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index:
Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
216.77 Question Mark
PWDB Relative Rarity Index:
Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
83.71 Question Mark
Share of Production:
Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
0.142% Question Mark
Registry Population:
Scoped for This Run Only
42 (0.84%) Question Mark
$ Estimated Value (12 Month Change): 0% Analyzing 291 Sales Question Mark

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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.


MoatsJustin1 top-contributor 5269 · December 7, 2023

Serial Number 2774895 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · December 2, 2023

Serial Number 2773976 was reported as accurate.

VICTORIAN1859 82 · May 5, 2022

Serial Number 2771775 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · February 5, 2022

Serial Number 2774197 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 29, 2022

Serial Number 2771087 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 13, 2022

Serial Number 2772844 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: 15 Jewels is stamped on the movement.
Curator Response: Thanks for the report. Based on the photos, the "15 Jewels" was added post-factory. This was occasionally done to make the watch appear to have more jewels than it actually did. The Grade 43 was fitted with 11 Jewels at the factory, and your movement is consistent with other known Grade 43 movements, aligning with factory serial lists.

Anonymous · September 12, 2021

Serial Number 2771776 was reported as accurate.

Rickhufnagel7 Top Contributor Elgin Expert Hampden Expert Supporter 630 · January 3, 2021

Serial Number 2770024 was reported as accurate.

PHIL1199 Supporter 1152 · August 17, 2020

Serial Number 2772044 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · June 29, 2020

Serial Number 2772641 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · May 23, 2020

Serial Number 2770200 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 25, 2020

Serial Number 2771951 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 25, 2020

Serial Number 2771951 was reported as accurate.

Teezys 180 · December 3, 2019

Serial Number 2772217 was reported as accurate.

Beezqueen 45 · November 24, 2019

Serial Number 2770453 was reported as accurate.

Beezqueen 45 · November 22, 2019

Serial Number 2770453 was reported as accurate.

Teezys 180 · November 4, 2019

Serial Number 2772217 was reported as accurate.

Teezys 180 · October 27, 2019

Serial Number 2772217 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · October 10, 2019

Serial Number 2772217 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · October 6, 2019

Serial Number 2772217 was reported as accurate.

tink5249 2 · October 2, 2019

Serial Number 2770519 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 3, 2019

Serial Number 2774054 was reported as accurate.

colaman6mcq Supporter 151 · April 24, 2019

Serial Number 2771895 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 14, 2019

Serial Number 2771553 was reported as accurate.

WLBelkriver33 804 · November 14, 2018

Serial Number 2773394 was reported as accurate.

WLBelkriver33 804 · November 13, 2018

Serial Number 2771394 was reported as accurate.

BOBTICTAC1940 34 · November 6, 2018

Serial Number 2772379 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · October 19, 2018

Serial Number 2773164 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Jewels on listed says 11j. It is actually 15j on
inside of watch movement.
Curator Response: Thanks for the report. If possible, please upload an image of the movement to your collection so we can take a closer look.

Anonymous · September 22, 2018

Serial Number 2771461 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · September 11, 2018

Serial Number 2770314 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · May 8, 2018

Serial Number 2772049 was reported as accurate.

stevekrz 26 · April 18, 2018

Serial Number 2773490 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · April 16, 2018

Serial Number 2771360 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.

shimniok 7 · January 1, 2018

Serial Number 2774524 was reported as accurate.

Ann1379 27 · August 28, 2017

Serial Number 2773685 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · April 15, 2017

Serial Number 2774524 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · April 8, 2016

Serial Number 2770573 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Finish changed from Nickel to Half-Nickel

Anonymous · January 17, 2016

Serial Number 2770798 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Finish changed from Nickel to Half-Nickel

Anonymous · November 9, 2015

Serial Number 2772363 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Finish changed from Nickel to Half-Nickel

Anonymous · September 13, 2015

Serial Number 2772278 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Finish changed from Nickel to Half-Nickel

Anonymous · June 19, 2015

Serial Number 2770208 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Finish changed from Nickel to Half-Nickel

rdeleys 8 · June 4, 2015

Serial Number 2771539 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Finish changed from Nickel to Half-Nickel

rdeleys 8 · June 4, 2015

Serial Number 2771539 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Finish changed from Nickel to Half-Nickel

Anonymous · December 13, 2014

Serial Number 2772660 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Finish changed from Nickel to Half-Nickel

Anonymous · September 20, 2014

Serial Number 2770712 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Finish changed from Nickel to Half-Nickel

DaveAltis 1 · July 27, 2014

Serial Number 2770890 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Finish changed from Nickel to Half-Nickel

knives2sell 1 · March 17, 2014

Serial Number 2774933 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Finish changed from Nickel to Half-Nickel

conpen 7 · March 14, 2014

Serial Number 2774848 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Finish changed from Nickel to Half-Nickel

Keithmjticktockrepair 4 · March 7, 2014

Serial Number 2774933 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: This Movement is 15J not 11J
Curator Response: Thanks for the report. The Elgin Grade 43 was exclusively an 11-Jewel movement throughout the duration of production. The top plate is jeweled while the bottom plat is not.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Finish changed from Nickel to Half-Nickel

Anonymous · July 1, 2013

Serial Number 2770065 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Movement Finish changed from Nickel to Half-Nickel
Elgin Grade 43 Pocket Watch