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Access Date: April 19, 2024
From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin National Watch Co.
Grade: 86
| Manufacturer: | Elgin |  |
| Manufacturer Location: | Elgin, Illinois | |
| Movement Serial Number: | 3845262 | |
| Grade: | 86 | |
| Model: | 2 | |
| Class: | 22 | |
| Estimated Production Year: | 1890 | |
| Run Quantity: | 1,000 | |
| Grade/Model Run: | 10 of 16 | |
| Grade/Model Total Production: | 15,700 | |
| Grade/Model Unrealized Production: | 300 | |
| Size: | 16s | |
| Jewels: | 15j | |
| Jewel Setting: | Pressed/Friction Settings | |
| Movement Configuration: | Interchangeable | |
| Movement Finish: | Nickel | |
| Movement Signing Style: | Gothic Blackletter | |
| Movement Inlay Color: | Black | |
| Movement Setting: | Lever | |
| Plate: | Bridge Plate | |
| Bridge Type: | 3-finger Straight | |
| Barrel: | Going | |
| Train: | Quick | |
| Regulator: | Moseley | |
| Hairspring: | Breguet | |
| Adjusted: | Yes | |
| Adjusted to Temperature: | No | |
| Railroad Grade: | Yes | |
| U.S. Patents: | 185867, 77078, 10554 | |
| Movement Markings: | Elgin Nat'l Watch Co. Adjusted |
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| Data Research: |
1896 Elgin Serial List 1904 Elgin Serial List 1915 Elgin Serial List 1927/1950 Elgin Serial List |
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| Case: | Various | |
| Run ID: | 1452.86G10.16S221.162M18.C82.L669.15J427 | |
| Database Version: | v52.235 | |
| Advanced Metrics | ||
| PWDB Absolute Rarity Index: Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 47.27 | |
| PWDB Relative Rarity Index: Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 18.21 | |
| Share of Production: Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 0.031% | |
| Registry Population: | 16 (1.60%) | |
| $ Estimated Value (12 Month Change): | -16.16% Analyzing 80 Sales | |
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Research Note: #3845556: Verified with improper after-market "21 Jewels" marking on the pillar plate. Despite the fraudulent marking applied after leaving the factory, the movement is entirely consistent with the standard Grade 86 classification, featuring 15 jewels [eBay #164998599317].
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Production Metrics Tree: Grade 86
Target Profile: 16S-M2-15J-CNL-A
| Elgin Grade 86 (All Variations): 15,700 ETP | |||||||||
| 16S: 15,700 100.00% 16s, Grade 86 |
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| 16S-M2: 15,700 100.00% 16s, Grade 86, Model 2 |
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| 16S-M2-15J: 15,700 100.00% 16s, Grade 86, Model 2, 15 Jewels |
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| 16S-M2-15J-CNL: 15,700 100.00% 16s, Grade 86, Model 2, 15 Jewels, Interchangeable/Lever/Nickel |
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| 16S-M2-15J-CNL-A: 15,700 100.00% | |||||||||
| NOTE: 16,000 Units Originally Reserved with Est. 300 Never Manufactured | |||||||||
Population Registry for This Run
| Image | Serial Number | Run Position | Primary Identification Method | Discovery Date | |
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There are 16 watches in the population registry for this run with 2 images.
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Verification Reports for this Run
The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.
Anonymous · April 12, 2024
Serial Number 3845182 was reported as accurate.
DocRogan43 Supporter 86 · March 31, 2023
Serial Number 3845836 was reported as accurate.
DocRogan43 Supporter 86 · March 31, 2023
Serial Number 3845836 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · July 16, 2021
Serial Number 3845264 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · April 24, 2020
Serial Number 3845534 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · March 3, 2020
Serial Number 3845262 was reported as accurate.
cbzimm Supporter 468 · May 29, 2019
Serial Number 3845647 was reported as accurate.
wayner1943 9 · February 17, 2019
Serial Number 3845244 was reported as accurate.
WLBelkriver33 804 · October 8, 2018
Serial Number 3845224 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · April 21, 2018
Serial Number 3845772 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · October 24, 2016
Serial Number 3845258 was reported as accurate.
heyclink 9 · December 12, 2015
Serial Number 3845590 was reported as accurate.
rafymon98 8 · October 28, 2015
Serial Number 3845203 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · October 8, 2015
Serial Number 3845276 was reported as accurate.
jerrydk7 227 · April 22, 2014
Serial Number 3845324 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · April 27, 2013
Serial Number 3845487 was reported as accurate.
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