Pocket Watch Database

From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin Grade 123 Pocket Watch

Elgin National Watch Co.

Grade: 123

Mixed Run: 15-Jewel and 17-Jewel Examples Reported

Manufacturer: Elgin
Manufacturer Location: Elgin, Illinois
Movement Serial Number: 4684740
Grade: 123
Model: 5
Class: 9
Estimated Production Year: 1893
Run Quantity: 3,000
Grade/Model Run: 2 of 7
Grade/Model Total Production: 13,000
Variant Est. Production: 9,000 (18S-M5-17J)
Size: 18s
Jewels: 17j    Mixed Run
Jewel Setting: Screw-Set
Movement Configuration: Openface
Movement Finish: Gilt
Movement Setting: Pendant
Plate: Full Plate
Barrel: Going
Train: Quick
Regulator: Moseley
Hairspring: Breguet
Adjusted: Yes
Adjusted to Temperature: No
Railroad Grade: No
U.S. Patents: 77078, 347272, 345619
Data Research: 1896 Elgin Serial List
1904 Elgin Serial List
1915 Elgin Serial List
1927/1950 Elgin Serial List
Case: Various
Run ID: 1829.123G2.18S1066.185M222.O284.P391.17J12
Database Version: v52.219
Advanced Metrics
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index:
Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
38.92
PWDB Relative Rarity Index:
Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
15.07
Share of Production:
Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
0.026%
Registry Population: 18 (0.60%)
Research Note: According to Elgin grade descriptions, Grade 123 is designated as 15-17 jewels. This run appears to be mixed. #4684740 has been verified as marked "17 Jewels." #4685299 has been reported as marked "17 Jewels." #4683587 reported as having 15 Jewels. #4683475: Verified as 15-Jewel Movement.

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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.


Anonymous · June 10, 2022

Serial Number 4684864 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · August 2, 2021

Serial Number 4683920 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · February 20, 2021

Serial Number 4685396 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · September 29, 2019

Serial Number 4684766 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · September 29, 2019

Serial Number 4684766 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 30, 2019

Serial Number 4683129 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · April 26, 2019

Serial Number 4685826 was reported as accurate.

Mobilaero Top Contributor Supporter 291 · September 15, 2018

Serial Number 4684740 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · January 5, 2018

Serial Number 4683587 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: 15 jewels not 17. Movement 4,683,587 is 15 jewels
but all other information is correct.
Bob Stafford

Mobilaero Top Contributor Supporter 291 · October 18, 2016

Serial Number 4684740 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.

Anonymous · September 3, 2016

Serial Number 4684740 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: marked "17 Jewels"
Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 15j to 17j

watchman4831 193 · February 2, 2014

Serial Number 4685299 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Movement is adjusted and is marked 17 jewels
Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 15j to 17j

watchman4831 193 · February 2, 2014

Serial Number 4685299 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 15j to 17j

cmdraven 3970 · October 22, 2013

Serial Number 4683147 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 15j to 17j

Anonymous · October 3, 2013

Serial Number 4683869 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 15j to 17j

Anonymous · May 20, 2013

Serial Number 4685915 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 15j to 17j

Anonymous · May 7, 2013

Serial Number 4685544 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 15j to 17j

Anonymous · April 5, 2013

Serial Number 4685716 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 15j to 17j

Anonymous · May 16, 2012

Serial Number 4685042 was reported as accurate.

Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 15j to 17j
Elgin Grade 123 Pocket Watch