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Access Date: December 26, 2024
From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin National Watch Co.
Grade: 71
| Manufacturer: | Elgin |  |
| Manufacturer Location: | Elgin, Illinois | |
| Movement Serial Number: | 514770 | |
| Grade: | 71 | |
| Model: | 1 | |
| Class: | 49 | |
| Estimated Production Year: | 1878 | |
| Run Quantity: | 1,000 | |
| Grade/Model Run: | 1 of 1 | |
| Grade/Model Total Production: | 1,000 | |
| Size: | 8s | |
| Jewels: | 17j | |
| Jewel Material: | Ruby | |
| Jewel Setting: | Screw-Set | |
| Movement Configuration: | Hunting | |
| Movement Finish: | Nickel | |
| Movement Signing Style: | Gothic Blackletter | |
| Movement Inlay Color: | Black | |
| Movement Setting: | Lever | |
| Plate: | 3/4 Plate | |
| Barrel: | Going | |
| Train: | Quick | |
| Regulator: | Plain | |
| Adjusted: | Yes | |
| Adjusted to Temperature: | No | |
| Railroad Grade: | No | |
| U.S. Patents: | 77078 | |
| Movement Markings: | Elgin Nat'l Watch Co. Adjusted Patent Pinion |
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| Case: | Various | |
| Run ID: | 473.71G1.8S5.81M5.H471.L56.17J1 | |
| Data Research: |
1896 Elgin Serial List 1904 Elgin Serial List 1915 Elgin Serial List 1927/1950 Elgin Serial List |
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| Database Version: | v52.528 | |
| Advanced Metrics | ||
| PWDB Absolute Rarity Index: Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 3.01 | |
| PWDB Relative Rarity Index: Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 1.11 | |
| Share of Production: Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 0.002% | |
| Registry Population: Scoped for This Run Only | 16 (1.60%) | |
Production Metrics Tree: Grade 71
Target Profile: 8S-M1-17J-HNL-A
| Elgin Grade 71 (All Variations): 5,000 ETP | |
| 8S: 1,000 20.00% 8s, Grade 71 |
Other: 4,000
Other Sizes or Unclassified |
| 8S-M1: 1,000 20.00% 8s, Grade 71, Model 1 |
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| 8S-M1-17J: 1,000 20.00% 8s, Grade 71, Model 1, 17 Jewels |
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| 8S-M1-17J-HNL: 1,000 20.00% 8s, Grade 71, Model 1, 17 Jewels, Hunting/Lever/Nickel |
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| 8S-M1-17J-HNL-A: 1,000 20.00% | |
Population Registry for This Run
| Image | Serial Number | Run Position | Primary Identification Method | Discovery Date | |
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There are 16 watches in the population registry for this run with 2 images.
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Verification Reports for this Run
The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.
Anonymous · July 1, 2024
Serial Number 514440 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · March 24, 2024
Serial Number 514440 was reported as accurate.
Rcardkidz 4135 · July 23, 2023
Serial Number 514216 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · May 18, 2022
Serial Number 514663 was reported as accurate.
fordcasa Top Contributor Supporter 444 · May 12, 2020
Serial Number 514770 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · April 19, 2020
Serial Number 514514 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · July 28, 2019
Serial Number 514462 was reported as accurate.
Anonymous · November 20, 2018
Serial Number 514066 was reported as inaccurate.
Note: As far as I can tell it is a 6 size movement, it
is the same size as Elgin serial number 3006720,
which is listed as 6 size. Both movements are
grade 71, but 1 shows total production of 1000 and
the other shows total production of 5000. Thank
you.
is the same size as Elgin serial number 3006720,
which is listed as 6 size. Both movements are
grade 71, but 1 shows total production of 1000 and
the other shows total production of 5000. Thank
you.
Curator Response: Thanks for the report. This serial number preceeds Elgin's transition to the 6-Size movement by several years. The movements are very similar, but the 8-Size is slightly larger in diameter. A keen eye can differentiate between the two sizes immediately. I should note that there has been one early Grade 71 private label movement seen that was apparently trimmed down to 6-Size from a standard 8-Size movement. Aside from that anomoly, the first run of 6-Size Grade 71 movements began with serial #3,006,001. If you would like to upload an image of your watch, I would be happy to take a closer look and confirm either way.
Anonymous · November 12, 2018
Serial Number 514735 was reported as inaccurate.
Note: data base says 17 jewels watch is 15 jewels
Curator Response: Thanks for the report. Elgin Grade 71 was exclusively a 17-Jewel movement throughout production. Please verify the serial number is correct. If possible, please upload an image of the movement to your collection so we can take a closer look.
Anonymous · August 7, 2014
Serial Number 514158 was reported as accurate.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Size changed from 6 to 8
Anonymous · August 7, 2014
Serial Number 514158 was reported as accurate.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Size changed from 6 to 8
Anonymous · December 19, 2012
Serial Number 514307 was reported as accurate.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Size changed from 6 to 8
Anonymous · September 19, 2012
Serial Number 514770 was reported as inaccurate.
Note: size 8
no seconds on dial
otherwise all correct
no seconds on dial
otherwise all correct
Changes since this report was submitted:
Size changed from 6 to 8
