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Access Date: April 29, 2024
From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin National Watch Co.
Grade: 82
G.M. Wheeler
| Manufacturer: | Elgin |  |
| Manufacturer Location: | Elgin, Illinois | |
| Movement Serial Number: | 5877051 | |
| Grade: | 82 | |
| Variation: | G.M. Wheeler | |
| Model: | 3 | |
| Class: | 4 | |
| Estimated Production Year: | 1895 | |
| Run Quantity: | 3,000 | |
| Grade/Model Run: | 63 of 65 | |
| Grade/Model Total Production: | 155,000 | |
| Variant Est. Production: | 3,000 (18S-M3-17J-HGL-A-G.M. WHEELER) | |
| Size: | 18s | |
| Jewels: | 17j | |
| Jewel Setting: | Screw-Set | |
| Movement Configuration: | Hunting | |
| Movement Finish: | Gilt | |
| Movement Setting: | Lever | |
| Plate: | Full Plate | |
| Barrel: | Going | |
| Train: | Quick | |
| Regulator: | Moseley | |
| Adjusted: | Yes | |
| Adjusted to Temperature: | No | |
| Railroad Grade: | No | |
| U.S. Patents: | 77078 | |
| Data Research: |
1896 Elgin Serial List 1904 Elgin Serial List 1915 Elgin Serial List 1927/1950 Elgin Serial List |
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| Case: | Various | |
| Run ID: | 2307.82G67.18S1327.183M248.H1762.L1042.17J50 | |
| Database Version: | v52.246 | |
| Advanced Metrics | ||
| PWDB Absolute Rarity Index: Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 466.67 | |
| PWDB Relative Rarity Index: Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 180.28 | |
| Share of Production: Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration | 0.306% | |
| Registry Population: | 20 (0.67%) | |
| $ Estimated Value (12 Month Change): | -10.20% Analyzing 134 Sales | |
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Research Note: Factory records indicate Grade 82 was produced in 13-Jewel and 15-Jewel variants. However, #5877051 has been verified as 17-Jewels (factory-marked). Various movements from this run have been reported as marked "17 Jewels."
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Production Metrics Tree: Grade 82
Target Profile: 18S-M3-17J-HGL-A-G.M. WHEELER
| Elgin Grade 82 (All Variations): 163,000 ETP | |||||||
| 18S: 163,000 100.00% 18s, Grade 82 |
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| 18S-M3: 155,000 95.09% 18s, Grade 82, Model 3 |
Other: 8,000
Other Models or Unclassified |
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| 18S-M3-17J: 5,000 3.07% 18s, Grade 82, Model 3, 17 Jewels |
Other: 150,000
Other Jewels or Unclassified |
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| 18S-M3-17J-HGL: 5,000 3.07% 18s, Grade 82, Model 3, 17 Jewels, Hunting/Lever/Gilt |
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| 18S-M3-17J-HGL-A: 4,000 2.45% | Other: 1,000
Other Adjustments or Unclassified |
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| 18S-M3-17J-HGL-A-G.M. WHEELER: 3,000 1.84% | |||||||
Population Registry for This Run
| Image | Serial Number | Run Position | Primary Identification Method | Discovery Date | |
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There are 20 watches in the population registry for this run with 1 image.
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Verification Reports for this Run
The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.
cjbrem Supporter 521 · October 6, 2022
Serial Number 5877342 was reported as accurate.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
Anonymous · April 19, 2021
Serial Number 5877216 was reported as accurate.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
cbzimm Supporter 468 · August 4, 2020
Serial Number 5877051 was reported as inaccurate.
Note: Marked on barrel bridge:
Adjusted
17 Jewels
Adjusted
17 Jewels
Curator Response: Thanks for the report. This information has been noted in the research notes for this run.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 13j or 15j to 17j
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
Anonymous · October 25, 2019
Serial Number 5876657 was reported as inaccurate.
Note: Stamped 17 jewels
Curator Response: Thanks for the report. If possible, please upload an image of the movement to your collection for further evaluation and documentation.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 13j or 15j to 17j
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
debbie1964 1 · May 21, 2019
Serial Number 5876373 was reported as accurate.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 13j or 15j to 17j
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
Anonymous · November 10, 2018
Serial Number 5876134 was reported as accurate.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 13j or 15j to 17j
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
Anonymous · February 9, 2018
Serial Number 5878530 was reported as inaccurate.
Note: Plates marked 17 Jewel
Curator Response: Thanks for the report. If possible, please upload an image of the movement to your collection so we can take a closer look.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 13j or 15j to 17j
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
Anonymous · September 7, 2016
Serial Number 5878441 was reported as accurate.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 15j to 17j
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
Anonymous · March 31, 2016
Serial Number 5876421 was reported as accurate.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 15j to 17j
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
cmdraven 3993 · November 29, 2014
Serial Number 5877291 was reported as accurate.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 15j to 17j
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
Anonymous · November 19, 2014
Serial Number 5878583 was reported as inaccurate.
Note: 17 jewels
Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 15j to 17j
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
OldEphram 30 · September 27, 2013
Serial Number 5877259 was reported as accurate.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 15j to 17j
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
Anonymous · May 22, 2013
Serial Number 5878325 was reported as accurate.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 15j to 17j
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
Anonymous · April 20, 2013
Serial Number 5878325 was reported as accurate.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 15j to 17j
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
Anonymous · March 21, 2013
Serial Number 5877900 was reported as accurate.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 15j to 17j
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
Anonymous · February 24, 2013
Serial Number 5877900 was reported as accurate.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 15j to 17j
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
Anonymous · December 7, 2012
Serial Number 5876323 was reported as inaccurate.
No further details were submitted with the report.
Changes since this report was submitted:
Jewels changed from 13j to 17j
Adjusted changed from No to Yes
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