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From the American Horology Archive:
Elgin Grade 117 Pocket Watch
Elgin Grade 117 Pocket Watch

Elgin National Watch Co.

Grade: 117

Manufacturer: Elgin Question Mark
Manufacturer Location: Elgin, Illinois Question Mark
Movement Serial Number: 6509419 Question Mark
Grade: 117 Question Mark
Model: 2 Question Mark
Class: 56 Question Mark
Estimated Production Year: 1897 Question Mark
Run Quantity: 5,000 Question Mark
Grade/Model Run: 43 of 57 Question Mark
Grade/Model Total Production: 345,000 Question Mark
Size: 6s Question Mark
Jewels: 7j Question Mark
Movement Configuration: Hunting Question Mark
Movement Finish: Gilt Question Mark
Movement Setting: Pendant Question Mark
Plate: 3/4 Plate Question Mark
Barrel: Going Question Mark
Train: Quick Question Mark
Regulator: Plain Question Mark
Standard Dial Type: Single-Sunk Question Mark
Adjusted: No Question Mark
Railroad Grade: No Question Mark
U.S. Patents: 77078 Question Mark
Case: Various Question Mark
Run ID: 2570.117G43.6S363.62M152.H1945.P853.7J666 Question Mark
Data Research: 1896 Elgin Serial List
1904 Elgin Serial List
1915 Elgin Serial List
1927/1950 Elgin Serial List
Question Mark
Database Version: v52.462 Question Mark
Advanced Metrics
PWDB Absolute Rarity Index:
Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
1,038.72 Question Mark
PWDB Relative Rarity Index:
Rarity within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
401.34 Question Mark
Share of Production:
Share within Manufacturer - Scoped for Grade/Size/Model/Configuration
0.682% Question Mark
Registry Population:
Scoped for This Run Only
21 (0.42%) Question Mark
$ Estimated Value (12 Month Change): -1.71% Analyzing 885 Sales Question Mark
Research Note: #6509328: Verified as a 23-Jewel Prototype Model. Based on the characteristics, this watch may be an early prototype of what would become the Grade 214.

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Verification Reports for this Run

The following reports have been graciously submitted by dedicated members in reference to this production run. These reports are useful to verify data and track inaccuracies that require further research. Please note that reports may contain inaccurate information or assumptions that must be dilligently considered with other available sources.


MoatsJustin1 top-contributor 5269 · October 10, 2024

Serial Number 6512549 was reported as accurate.

MoatsJustin1 top-contributor 5269 · December 9, 2023

Serial Number 6509491 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · November 17, 2023

Serial Number 6511053 was reported as accurate.

Rcardkidz 4075 · July 13, 2023

Serial Number 6512362 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · June 1, 2022

Serial Number 6509883 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · April 14, 2022

Serial Number 6509883 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · March 3, 2022

Serial Number 6509883 was reported as accurate.

fordcasa Top Contributor Supporter 444 · May 20, 2021

Serial Number 6509328 was reported as inaccurate.

Note: Experimental model 23 jewels
Size not known

Anonymous · January 18, 2021

Serial Number 6508902 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · August 12, 2020

Serial Number 6509170 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · February 20, 2019

Serial Number 6509393 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · October 12, 2018

Serial Number 6510055 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · June 5, 2015

Serial Number 6512422 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · September 7, 2014

Serial Number 6509428 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 23, 2014

Serial Number 6509428 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · October 19, 2012

Serial Number 6510435 was reported as accurate.

Anonymous · July 22, 2012

Serial Number 6512996 was reported as inaccurate.

No further details were submitted with the report.

Anonymous · July 14, 2012

Serial Number 6509732 was reported as accurate.

Elgin Grade 117 Pocket Watch
Elgin Grade 117 Pocket Watch